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Hi, I agree with David. However, European scientists here we are showing arrogance as we do not take in consideration the unequal situation here, andf our privilege socio-economic positions in respect of scientists from developing countries. Additionally, the lack of an international legal body in Geology and paleontology to regulate this and other situations like journal reviewing shows that our area is dominated by a certain elite from a certain social background.... Respectfully, Xavier Panades I Blas 55, Marksbury Road Bedminster Bristol BS3 5JY England (EC) http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ From: "David Kopaska-Merkel" <davidkm@gsa.state.al.us> Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk To: <paleonet@nhm.ac.uk> Subject: RE: paleonet Who is Granier Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:40:29 -0600 I do not believe that paleonet or the paleontological community should operate the way Senator Joseph McCarthy or Joseph Stalin would do. An accusation is not the same as evidence. Dr. Canu (who has divulged very little information about himself) has accused Bruno Granier (whom I know slightly and believe to be an honest researcher) of serious misconduct, in an open forum. I do not believe this mailing list should function as a court. By contrast, Dr. Granier referred to a publication in preparation dealing with the subject of scientific misconduct. He did not accuse a fellow member of the list of anything until he was personally attacked. Plagiarism and the other offenses that recently have been referred to on this list are serious and should be exposed whenever they occur. However, such exposure is only possible when independent individuals review relevant data. It is not helpful to the science to make public accusations without supporting evidence. It is inconsiderate and harmful to attack someone's reputation in this manner. Sincerely, David David C. Kopaska-Merkel Geological Survey of Alabama P.O. Box 869999 Tuscaloosa AL 35486-6999 (205) 247-3695 (direct line/voice mail) (205) 349-2852 (switchboard) fax 349-2861 www.gsa.state.al.us To join sednet, an e-mail group for discussion of sedimentology, send a blank e-mail message to sednet-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. To join a new list about science education in Alabama, send a blank e-mail message to ALScienceEdNews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. -----Original Message----- From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Xavier Panades I Blas Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:53 AM To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet Who is Granier I think Dr. Canu should contact Dr. Granier University or employee and he should be investigated seriously. Particularly somebody that so freely judges other people by their work and origin and then his work is based on dodgy background....I wonder his deep and sincere love for the Spanish State comes from... Respectfully, Xavier Panades I Blas 55, Marksbury Road Bedminster Bristol BS3 5JY England (EC) http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ From: Bruno GRANIER <bruno-granier@wanadoo.fr> Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet Who is Granier Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 16:53:08 +0100 (CET) Thank you again Mr. X for advertising my work (though few people in this list care about fossil Dasycladales), not to forget my co-authors' work! I am going to ease your "job": my published work is listed on http://perso-sdt.univ-brest.fr/~bgranier/geologie/paleontologie/granier_pub. html (eventually you can download some!) Which one will you choose next? Where are your proofs? I also have reprints available for this paper in case anyone is interested I can send him/her a copy (I have more than thirty five left): Granier B., Ait Sliman M.A. & Fedan B. [1997].- "Triploporella ? atlasica n. sp., une Dasycladacée (Algue verte) du Paléocène-Eocène de l'Atlas moyen, Maroc". Revue de Paléobiologie, Geneva, 16/1, p. 47-53, 1 fig., 1 pl. The reply is coming VERY soon ... Regards to all (except for Mr. X) BG _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters
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