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Re: paleonet NYTimes editorial on Creationism



  Practicing physicians in the US _must_ have a MD degree, or some equivalent 
(e.g. DPM). The Ph.D. does not count. Ph.D.'s in medicine are reserved for 
medical research, though most Ph.D.s in medicine generally also hold a MD 
degree (most programs that offer the Ph.D. offer it jointly with the MD).  
And I have to say that, having some familiarity with those programs, that the 
quality of research mentoring offered in the medical Ph.D. programs is in no 
way less than what is expected in other scientific disciplines. A 
dissertation is produced, and active research and publication is expected.
  Look, ID and other creationists who hold advanced degrees in science do not 
hold their beliefs because they received insufficient training or anything 
like that. They are religious fundamentalists, and they interpret everything 
in the world around them in that light (no pun intended). I have personally 
known two geologists who received Ph.D.s from two of the top 10 Geology 
programs in the country, and yet are creationists. Smart enough to get the 
degree, but no, not smart enough to be good scientists. 
  I agree with the emphasis that has been placed on the role of history in 
this debate. Unfortunately, that is a point that is quite often highlighted 
by creationists, precisely because it is a soft spot in the framework of 
evolutionary theory. There are no "tests" of evolution, in the Popperian 
sense, to be had from the geological record. There is inference only. I am a 
strong proponent of inferential science, and there is nothing preventing 
predictive hypotheses being generated from observations based on the fossil 
record. But  _strong_ tests are in the neontological domain. _Understanding_ 
the history of life, and the current state, does indeed require history, but 
remember, it does have a significant interpretive component. Our deep time 
science also differs from that of the physicists in one very important and 
fundamental way. Physicists can theoretically, and quite often in practice, 
reverse time. They do it all the time when they study conditions of the early 
Universe in particle accelerators. We can't do that. But we do have a record, 
and it is, in my opinion at least, most consistent with evolutionary theory 
and the Modern Synthesis.
Peter
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Dr. Peter D. Roopnarine, Assoc. Curator
Department of Invertebrate Zoology & Geology
California Academy of Sciences
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