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Thank you Norm. I agree that the personal issue does not need to be discussed. This is being taken care of. The general problem is one is which consciences need to be raised. I guess that is happening to some degree. Judith judith harris professor emerita Univ of Colorado Museum harrisj@valornet.com 505-756-1813 On Oct 19, 2006, at 1:57 PM, N. MacLeod wrote: > Every now and again the discussion on PaleoNet drifts onto a topic > that > leaves some list members feeling uncomfortable. This Josh Smith > String is > one of those. Of course, the standard advice we give when people > raise a > question regarding whether a topic is appropriate for a list > dedicated to > discussing any all all things paleontological is to point out they can > always exercise their right not the read any of the comments made > about any > particular topic. That pertains to this string too. However, there is > another aspect to this issue we may want to consider. Resignations > can be > accompanied by legal actions and it may be the case that informal > talk on > the list about any particular individual's actions--past, present, or > future--could influence the outcome of such actions should any of the > parties decide to pursue matters through the courts. There are > procedures in > place in most universities, museums, government offices, etc. to > resolve > such disputes on the basis of evidence, not allegations, innuendo, > and/or > gossip. PaleoNet just isn't the place to discuss the particulars of > any > individual case. > > That having been said, discussions of how women in our profession are > treated is perfectly pertinent for discussion on PaleoNet, at least > in my > opinion. All my career I've heard stories about this sort of thing. > In a few > cases I've had the misfortune of seeing what it does to the people > involved. > It's not a pretty sight. I think it bothers most of us, male as > well as > female, both as paleontologists and as people. It damn well should! > But it's > also true we really don't discuss our professional responsibilities > in this > area as much as we should. I'd suggest we try to confine our > discussions on > this topic to the need for the consciousness of everyone in the > field to be > raised, what special professional responsibilities we must manage > (e.g., > co-ed fieldwork), what 'best practice' look like in these areas, > and how we > can best support those who feel themselves subject to any form of > intimidation and/or harassment irrespective of the the stage of their > career. > > Norm MacLeod > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Prof. Norman MacLeod > Keeper of Palaeontology > The Natural History Museum > Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD > > > (0)207 942-5204 (Office) > (0)207 942-5546 (Fax) > http://www.nhm.ac.uk//research-curation/staff-directory/ > palaeontology/cv-5463.html (Web Page) > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > >
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