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One wonders if a workshop on consciousness-raising, perhaps led by one who does such things on a regular basis, would be a welcome addition to a major meeting. Most CR used to be for women only, but we all need to have our eyes opened at one time or another. David David C. Kopaska-Merkel Geological Survey of Alabama P.O. Box 869999 Tuscaloosa AL 35486-6999 (205) 247-3695 (direct line/voice mail) (205) 349-2852 (switchboard) fax 349-2861 www.gsa.state.al.us To join sednet, an e-mail group for discussion of sedimentology, send a blank e-mail message to sednet-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. To join a new list about science education in Alabama, send a blank e-mail message to ALScienceEdNews-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. -----Original Message----- From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Judith Harris Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:41 PM To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet Sexual Harassment String Thank you Norm. I agree that the personal issue does not need to be discussed. This is being taken care of. The general problem is one is which consciences need to be raised. I guess that is happening to some degree. Judith judith harris professor emerita Univ of Colorado Museum harrisj@valornet.com 505-756-1813 On Oct 19, 2006, at 1:57 PM, N. MacLeod wrote: > Every now and again the discussion on PaleoNet drifts onto a topic > that leaves some list members feeling uncomfortable. This Josh Smith > String is one of those. Of course, the standard advice we give when > people raise a question regarding whether a topic is appropriate for a > list dedicated to discussing any all all things paleontological is to > point out they can always exercise their right not the read any of the > comments made about any particular topic. That pertains to this string > too. However, there is another aspect to this issue we may want to > consider. Resignations can be accompanied by legal actions and it may > be the case that informal talk on the list about any particular > individual's actions--past, present, or future--could influence the > outcome of such actions should any of the parties decide to pursue > matters through the courts. There are procedures in place in most > universities, museums, government offices, etc. to resolve such > disputes on the basis of evidence, not allegations, innuendo, and/or > gossip. PaleoNet just isn't the place to discuss the particulars of > any individual case. > > That having been said, discussions of how women in our profession are > treated is perfectly pertinent for discussion on PaleoNet, at least in > my opinion. All my career I've heard stories about this sort of thing. > In a few > cases I've had the misfortune of seeing what it does to the people > involved. > It's not a pretty sight. I think it bothers most of us, male as well > as female, both as paleontologists and as people. It damn well should! > But it's > also true we really don't discuss our professional responsibilities in > this area as much as we should. I'd suggest we try to confine our > discussions on this topic to the need for the consciousness of > everyone in the field to be raised, what special professional > responsibilities we must manage (e.g., co-ed fieldwork), what 'best > practice' look like in these areas, and how we can best support those > who feel themselves subject to any form of intimidation and/or > harassment irrespective of the the stage of their career. > > Norm MacLeod > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Prof. Norman MacLeod > Keeper of Palaeontology > The Natural History Museum > Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD > > > (0)207 942-5204 (Office) > (0)207 942-5546 (Fax) > http://www.nhm.ac.uk//research-curation/staff-directory/ > palaeontology/cv-5463.html (Web Page) > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > >
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