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I wasn't going to respond. I don't know this man. But it is definitely not about just this man. At least he didn't get away with it. Most do. I decided to say something because saying it is inappropriate for this list is equivalent to saying that it is a matter only for the authorities. It is not. It is an environment of tolerance for rape and sexual harassment of all kinds. And it should be talked about. On this list. This problem is rife everywhere, but especially in academia, and especially in field sciences, and especially in vertebrate paleontology. As a woman who has been a v.p. for many years, I have been horrified by all of this. At C.U. it has only been the Instructors that get reprimanded. The professors don't get into trouble over sexual harassment--or worse. They have too much status and clout. A lot of it, but not all, is because of field seasons and the heavy drinking that goes on there. I actually had a friend, who was a student at the time, that was raped in the field. By a paleobotany student at one of the eastern schools. She wouldn't let me go after him. She was too afraid and embarrassed. I would imagine that every woman knows these stories-- and many men too. She quit paleontology. Then there were the bad old days, when I was a student, when they wouldn't allow women to do summer field because of the sexual issues. Women students had to do their summer field BY Themselves. Rape, and its tamer counterpart sexual harassment, is NOT OK! And it has been a serious problem in vertebrate paleontology. Get real boys and girls. Judith Harris emerita professor museum university of colorado at boulder 505-756-1813 harrisj@valornet.com On Oct 19, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Leigh Van Valen wrote: > I think the exchange below deserves wider attention than just by > vert people. There is a problem professor in my own department. > How are other countries doing? > > Good goddess. This guy persuaded (at SVP) nubile females to come > work under him. Under him indeed. I don't know how many rapes he > actually committed, as well as other unwanted acts of sexual > aggression, but the story http://www.studlife.com/media/storage/ > paper337/news/2006/10/09/News/ > Professor.Resigns.Amidst.Sexual.Misconduct.Allegations-2339090.shtml?n > orewrite200610190903&sourcedomain=www.studlife.com > describes one attempt. That student complained, without success, > and had to leave the university. She then became a receptionist so > that she could eat, and hasn't gotten back into VP yet. See http:// > juliaheathcote.com/ She was good enough that she had been admitted > here, but Smith was more persuasive. > > Russ, just how many careers have you ruined with your 'few > indiscretions' that didn't 'get caught'? > > Leigh > >> Dear List, >> >> Some of you liberals on this list obviously know little about the >> real world of the military and in your zeal to malign Josh Smith, >> you have overstepped the bounds of your knowledge. If you watched >> any news channel but CBS and CNN you would know that the National >> Guard and the Army Reserves have conducted half of the battle in >> Afghanistan and Iraq (and yes both auxillary groups have Special >> Forces units which have been activated, just as they were during >> Vietnam, my war, in which I received a Bronze Star and served with >> the 1st Cavalry Division (Airmobile). I had originally been with >> the Indiana National Guard. Half of the casualties in Iraq have >> been National Guard, or Reserves, so back off on the uninformed >> crap. If you have genuine grievance against Josh, so be it, but >> don't politicize and throw out other stuff about which you know >> nothing. If you have genuine reasons to dislike him, then perhaps >> you are justified. If you don't then perhaps you should just back >> off. He may have made a few discretions (like most of us). Of >> course you're only in trouble if you get caught. Those of us who >> are pure and spotless (because our indescretions are unknown (or >> so we think) find it easy to be judgemental have the By doing >> otherwise, you only show your own ignorance. >> >> P.S. I met Josh here in Gainesville years ago. Like all of us he >> was young, ambitious, and obviously had a future in front of him. >> In the month I worked with him he taught me a few things about >> casting which I never forgot. I would only imagine that he became >> a competetant paleontologist. As Jason said, it is innappropriate >> to editorialize in this form---it is even more inappropriate to >> moralize in this forum. >> Russ McCarty >> VP FLMNH >> >> Russ McCartyAt 02:06 PM 10/16/2006 -0400, you wrote: >>> I have no more information on this than anyone else, but I can't see >>> any relevence to the vp community, and I think it is totally >>> innappropriate to editorialize in this forum. >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> tyrannosaurguy@hush.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I am normally a reader only of this list, but came across an >>>> article of >>>> interest to others in the field. I (like almost everyone else) had >>>> heard a lot of rumors about Josh Smith over the past couple of >>>> years, but it looks like he has finally gone to far for the >>>> administration at Washington University to cover up his misdeeds >>>> (links below to the student newspapers coverage of the >>>> "resignation"). He was forced to resign in August sometime for yet >>> >another sexual misconduct charge. Suprising that a lot of the >>> >other incidents (such as lying about his military career and being >>> >in Special Forces, he was only in the reserves per his own book >>>> Lost Dinosaurs of Egypt) didn't contribute to the firing. Anyway, >>>> thought I should bring it to the list's attention so he can't do >>>> this to any more people. >>>> >>>> Hopefully Matt Lamanna or Ken Lacovara will continue to work in >>>> Bahariya since there is still so much there to be studied. >>> > >>>> http://www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2006/10/09/ >>>> News/ >>>> Professor.Resigns.Amidst.Sexual.Misconduct.Allegations- >>>> 2339090.shtml?norewrite200610141435&sourcedomain=www.studlife.com >>> > >>>> http://www.studlife.com/media/storage/paper337/news/2006/10/09/ >>>> Forum >>>> /Universitys.Silence.On.Sexual.Misconduct.Unacceptable- >>>> 2338326.shtml?norewrite200610141435&sourcedomain=www.studlife.com >>>> >>> >Daniel W. >>> Ph.D. Student-Vertebrate Paleontology >>> Department of Biological Sciences and >>> Biotechnology >>> Drexel University >>> Stratton 118 >>> 32nd & Chestnut Streets >>> Philadelphia, PA 19104 >> >> Russ McCarty >> cormac@flmnh.ufl.edu > >
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