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On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, James Davison wrote: > Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:03:06 -0600 > From: James Davison <jamesdavison@comcast.net> > Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk > To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk > Subject: Re: paleonet Living Pterosaurs soon on display > > http://objectiveministries.org/creation/projectpterosaur.html > > Sorry all, but this site is not a hoax -- it is serious. Explore the links > on this page and you will find it is real. Creationism in the USA is growing > stronger every day, and these people are able to create an internet presence Whether spoof, satire, seriousness by the writers or anything else: These things appear to be taken serious by several people. I recommend, even if it appears boring, "unexciting", the same stuff like "brushing teeth to avoid holes": If an incorrect view appears (such as on isotope dating): Send an e-mail to them, address all things calmly one by one so they don t have to believe anything, emphasize the gift of rational thinking that god gave to humans and the subsequent duty to apply it (e.g. use words and phrasings that are understood by the readers) and contribute one small droplet to progress. I am aware that discussing with religiously-driven people is difficult (even, sorry for the hard example, Mohamed Atta (9/11) might erraneously have thought to have done a good deed for which he gets a reward after death, e.g. (by his view) Not fighting the US but working against "spread of evil"). You might also include a sentence like: It was very difficult also for Jesus to convince people that "well being of normal citizens is essential", "not everything should be taken exclusively by the rich (wealth itsself is not objected, but not exclusively). Now it is a common-place in every bible-based church." Comparably you might try to draw attention to facts xyz (implications of isotope dating, Quaternaty Geology including sea level fluctuations). I mean: Look at the creation research institutes website, address one point (may I draw your attention to the fact that a detail on your website might be improvable) Close if you like with: I hope God helped me to find the right thoughts. In Germany for example there is a large group of people, supported by members of the church that think: "To have secure pensions we need more children" (what they call the demographical factor). Sending an e-mail, where such a view appears that gives a simple calculation that this is wrong needs time (if a pension-system is based on "the young pay for the old" then, simplified, an average pension of 900 USD for 20 million people needs a payment of 300 USD per month by the other 60 million people (Germany has 80 million inhabitants)). 40 years later, for the same ratio, 180 million Germans are needed, 40 years later 540 million Germans: All must have a well-paid job to be able to pay the 300 USD per month... (= the opposite of what churches say with minijobs, McJobs etc. etc). You might address calmly these people yourself with an easily understandable e-mail lets say every two months (= have one evening with beer less, write an e-mail instead, e.g. to the creation-research institute. Neither Rome nor the Himalayas finalized in a day. > > -- Jim Davison > > http://www.geocities.com/auralgo/2TopCone.htm Best regards Peter > ********************************************************************** Dr. Peter P. Smolka University Muenster Geological Institute Corrensstr. 24 D-48149 Muenster Tel.: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 Fax: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 E-Mail: smolka@uni-muenster.de E-Mail: PSmolka@T-Online.de **********************************************************************
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