Re: paleonet ID in the Classroom

[Bill Chaisson/Deirdre Cunningham <chaisson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Title: Re: paleonet ID in the Classroom

How long could it take to outline the elements of intelligent design?  ID is for people who insist that there is some sort of purpose woven into the history of Nature.  Therefore adherents to ID should be discouraged from pursuing the parts of physics, chemistry, biology and geology that are perverted by the insistence on the existence of an omniscient design(er).  Let them design lasers and masers like Charles Towne.  And let's all rebut them with vigor when they stick their noses in where they will only hinder us from discovering something closer to the truth.

 

No.  The modern IDers insist that there are some features of life (bacterial flagella, metabolic pathways etc) or the Universe (supposedly fine-tuned for life) that can not be explained by evolution/naturalism.  Therefore, "True" science must include supernaturalism.

Well, the whole point of supernaturalism is to give the universe purpose, so I think we're saying the same thing here.  The ID folks can't accept that a complex system can evolve unless it was built for the purpose of doing what they observe it to be doing.

I get the feeling that creationists think about God first and Nature second, while the ID crowd looks at Nature first, but can't help thinking about God second.

I just don't see where a failure of imagination constitutes a 'theory'.

Bill

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