Re: paleonet Replicas as Type Specimens

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Dear Niko,

Thanks. Your point on parataxonomy is even better. Making it much easier to 
work with replicas of trace fossils not covered by the ICZN. And yes, it 
would suit me very well treating natural and artificial replicas equally.

Jan.


>From: "Nikolaus Malchus" <n.malchus@gmx.net>
>To: JK Nielsen <taphofacies@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: paleonet Replicas as Type Specimens
>Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:53:53 +0200 (MEST)
>
>Hi Jan,
>
>An interesting problem. You are certainly much better informed than I.
>But just in case, as far as I can see from the few reprints I have on that
>subject, the group of Klaus Vogel(Frankfurt, retired for some years now)
>makes ichnotaxa and also determines (ichno)types. In the case of
>parataxonomy I actually don't see the importance of the difference with
>respect to natural vs. man-made casts.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Niko
>
>
>Thanks for information on ICZN article 72.5.3. However, artificial casts
> > and
> > moulds may be indispensable in taxonomical studies and have to be used 
>as
> > types. For example, the entire morphology of microborings are commonly 
>too
> > difficult to describe and illustrate without making casts. Situated 
>within
> > opaque substrates, the casts have to be etched out. As such, the natural
> > substrates and original microborings are gone. Is there a solution on 
>such
> > cases?
> >
> > Best PaleoGreetings,
> > Jan Nielsen
> >
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________________________
> > Ph.D. Jan Kresten Nielsen, associate researcher,
> > Geological Museum, University of Copenhagen,
> > Oester Voldgade 5-7, DK-1350 Copenhagen K,
> > Denmark
> >
> >
> > >From: Richard Hulbert <rhulbert@flmnh.ufl.edu>
> > >Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
> > >To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
> > >Subject: Re: paleonet Replicas as Type Specimens
> > >Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:36:56 -0400
> > >
> > >ICZN article 72.5.3 on eligibility as name-bearing types states that 
>only
> > >natural impressions, moulds, or casts can be used as types.  From this
> > and
> > >other parts of article 72.5 it is evident that man-made replicas can 
>not
> > be
> > >valid type specimens.  Thus, for example, if there is a specimen in a
> > >private collection and a cast of it in a museum collection, the cast 
>can
> > >not be designated the holotype of a new species.
> > >
> > >Regarding Mike's reply, the code is clear that illustrations of 
>specimens
> > >themselves can not be type specimens (72.5.6, 73.1.4, & 74.4); the
> > >specimens shown in the illustrations are the types.
> > >
> > >With regards to the situation when a holotype has been lost or 
>destroyed
> > >(e.g., WWII bombing of museums), casts or illustrations or photos of 
>the
> > >holotype that exist can in practical terms substitute for the holotype
> > and
> > >eliminate need for designation of a neotype, but they do not become
> > >"official" type specimens.
> > >
> > >Richard Hulbert
> > >
> > >
> > >At 07:39 AM 7/5/2004, you wrote:
> > >>Greetings,
> > >>
> > >>Are there documented examples of fossil replicas (latex, plaster, 
>etc.)
> > >>being used as reposited types?
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>Doug Boyce
> > >>--
> > >>*Mr. Doug Boyce, M.Sc., P.Geo., Provincial Paleontologist,
> > >>Geological Survey of Newfoundland and Labrador
> > >>P.O. Box 8700, St. John's, NL, Canada A1B 4J6
> > >>Phone: (709) 729-2163   Fax: (709) 729-4270
> >
> >>http://www.gov.nf.ca/mines&en/geosurvey/aboutus/sections/regional/boyce.stm
> > >>http://www.geosurv.gov.nf.ca/education/fossils/index.html
> > >>http://www.canadianrockhound.com/summer97/cr9701301_nfld.html
> > >>http://www.spnhc.org/documents/fossilprotection.htm
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> > >
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> >
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