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An interesting debate alright, but one governed by lots of different opinions and feelings about what a journal is, should be, etc. This has resulted in misconceptions and misinformation, as well as many good comments. Additionally, there are already many other electronic journals that have been operating since at least last year. Anyway, let me give you mine. Since I edit Marine Micropaleontology, which will go online shortly, I can provide some information. If you want an online forum for immediate publication of your unrefereed, non-standardized work, you've already got it in PaleoNet or any of many web sites. If you want a real scientific journal with the usual standards, then there are other considerations. The usual standards include at least the following: Readable in whatever language it is posted in. (i.e. grammatically correct and spelled right). Standardized format, so that readers know what to expect and where to look. Quality illustrations. Peer review to ensure the science is correct and the writing understandable according to the standards of the subdiscipline. These tasks are the same for a print journal. Publication time for a Marine Micropaleontology paper is about 5 months from acceptance to print. That time period includes copy editing, illustration checking, plate design, as well as page layout and type setting from electronic disk or typescript. Printing and mailing take little time and is included in there as well. This journal is different in that it is issued when a number is full, and it will publish any amount of text, figures or plates that is justified by the science. What can take the most time in the whole process is peer review and author's revision. The fastest peer review I've ever done was less than one week when I had electronic text and emailable reviewers. The longest can be over a year. The chief problem here is not the time it takes to read the ms, but trying to get the reviewer to read it at all. Most papers can be read critically in a day or so, so why should it take a year, or a month or even a week to review a ms. Because we are all busy doing other things and its not always fun to review mss. They go in the paper stratigraphy on our desks and may emerge at a much later time. The Electronic Journal of Geology pays its reviewers and that should make them feel guilty, if not hurry them up. Author revisions are commonly even longer, I presume for much the same reason. When you solve these problems, you will have faster publication, whether in print or cyberspace. For Society or other regularly published journals, the 5 months may be longer because they publish on a schedule. If you want a quality electronic journal, then these same tasks for the most part need to be performed. An electronic journal could speed publication time chiefly by issuing each paper as soon as it was accepted and prepared for posting. Simply number the pages consecutively and declare a volume at some known point. I'd keep page and volume numbers so that your vita will look the same for both print and e.j.s. This speed is worth it, too, in my opinion, to go electronic. Costs: If you want a quality e.j., then you need an independent editor, copy editing person or staff, and, additionally, someone who can put it on the WWW (could be one of the others, but it is yet another task). You need sympathetic reviewers, too, who might not get paid. The only free part (maybe) of this system is the author's efforts in writing and illustrating the paper, and the reviewers. Someone or some group will pay for the other services, as happens for every journal in existence. Society journals are heavily subsidized by employers of the editors or copy editors. In fact, for years some societies I know of tried to get USGS people to edit journals or other stuff because the feds covered salary, postage, secretarial, etc., whereas the most obvious other choice, college or university editors, often had to fight to be allowed to do it and the help was cheap student labor (but still paid for by the society). The e.j.s I've looked at are trying different modes of capturing costs. Some will charge by the download, some by a set subscription price, some by selling the completed e.j. on CD-ROMs to libraries (which is a hell of a good idea for archiving sake), some, like Elsevier may charge a subscription price only to workers where a hard copy is purchased by the library. You could also charge the authors. Acceptance in employee reviews: I never worried about whether or not electronic journals would count with Deans or supervisors when it comes to publication evaluation for promotion. These guys know very little about any journal. For example, my Dean, a physiologist, and my Chair, a crustacean behaviorist, probably have never heard of the Jour of Paleontology or Paleobiology. They accept my opinion that these are good journals in my field, I show them letters from the editors re: acceptances, and I indicate they are peer reviewed. Of course I include reprints that look fancy. If an e.j. held the same standards as these print journals and we could demonstrate that it did, and that it was read by most of the subdiscipline and hence had influence, I could easily convince anyone at Berkeley that this kind of publication was legitimate. If they wouldn't buy it, I would simply suggest to them that they were in the scientific stone age of old time paper publishing and that this institution could not be there. If that did not get them, I'd take it to the Academic Senate where I am sure I would win. But I suspect I'd never have any problems whatsoever as long as the e.j. met the usual scientific standards. One way to bolster the reputation of any e.j. is to have it sponsored by a scientific society or organization, rather than individuals. Deans, etc., respect the power of the membership as a guarantor of quality--usually. I suspect that we're going to do it and that the best electronic journals will be those with a regularly paid or subsidized editor who seeks outside reviews and takes much care in what is posted and how. Societies and commercial publishers are going to do this, most likely, if for no other reason that the credence that comes with it. They already are, and paleontology only needs to select a way to go about it. I'd suggest that the Paleontological Society join with Palaeo. Ass. and maybe some others to sponsor an e.j., with archived CD-ROMS. We could start tomorrow by simply adopting the methods of any of 100's of now-existing e.j.s in other fields. Jere H. Lipps, Director Museum of Paleontology University of California Berkeley, California 94720 USA Voice: 510-642-9006. Fax: 510-642-1822 Internet: jlipps@ucmp1.berkeley.edu WWW: http://ucmp1.berkeley.edu
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