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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:11:43 -0500 (EST) From: DAVID WAY <WAY3043@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu> Subject: Re: Evolve/Create To: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk Organization: SUNY at Plattsburgh, New York, USA MIME-version: 1.0 Status: O >From: IN%"paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk" 14-NOV-1995 23:48:10.77 >To: IN%"paleonet@nhm.ac.uk" >CC: >Subj: Evolve/Create > >Return-path: <paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk> >Received: from nhm.ac.uk (mailserver.nhm.ac.uk) by splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu > (PMDF V4.2-11 #3312) id <01HXND0MYR4G8WZZ4V@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>; Tue, > 14 Nov 1995 21:53:52 EST >Received: (from root@localhost) by nhm.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA27989 for > paleonet-outgoing; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:41:41 GMT >Received: from ucmp1.Berkeley.EDU (ucmp1.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.109.244]) by > nhm.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA27983 for <paleonet@nhm.ac.uk>; Tue, > 14 Nov 1995 23:41:25 GMT >Received: from [128.32.110.34] (jhl1.Biol.Berkeley.EDU) by ucmp1.Berkeley.EDU > (4.1/1.31) id AA01076; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:39:55 PST >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:39:27 -0700 >From: jlipps@ucmp1.Berkeley.EDU (Jere H. Lipps) >Subject: Evolve/Create >Sender: owner-paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >Reply-to: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk >Message-id: <v02120d1faccec2cc8867@[128.32.110.34]> >X-Envelope-to: WAY3043 >MIME-version: 1.0 >X-Mailer: Eudora 2.1.2 >Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Precedence: bulk > >None of this kind of thing should be too surprizing. In "The Creationist >Movement in Modern America" (Twayne Pub., Boston, 1990), Eve and Harrold >report three surveys in the late 1980's that report between 43 and 48% of >ALL Americans believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. Some 95% >believe in GOD. Many of my classes of freshmen here at Berkeley (entering >average GPA = A) believe all of it too. Most don't say much, thankfully, >but their hearts are often against us! > >No easy way to win, but anyone needing help should contact the National >Center for Science Education, 1328 6th Street, Berkeley, CA 94710. Genie >Scott there has helped many people fight these matters from a very >intelligent perspective. > > >Jere H. Lipps, Professor and Director >Department of Integrative Biology and >Museum of Paleontology >University of California >Berkeley, California 94720 USA > >Voice: 510-642-9006. Fax: 510-642-1822. >Internet: jlipps@ucmp1.berkeley.edu > > If believing in a god will give a person meaning to his or her life why shouldn't that belief be pursued. I am not saying by this to not teach evolution, but from after the initial formation of the universe. At that point we do not know what happend and it would be arogant to think that we did. Many people need a god to give what they can't find and to teach that away by insisting belief in God is unintelligent is taking your knowledge for granted. I myself do not believe in a god or creation this is my personal feeling about the subject and I would not force my view onto others. I would however argue for evolution purely because of the evidence of it. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" - but it surely is not evidence of it. I don't believe I am speaking unintelligently, just rationally. DAVID WAY
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