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Dear all, James--Thanks for offering me lycopod specimens, but as you have suspected, yes, I have inherited some Paleozoic plants from a colleague of mine, including lycopods, sphenopsids, ferns, and "early" gymnosperms, just enough for my courses. While I want to avoid "purchasing" any sorts of fossils as much as possible, I don't have any problem with educational supplying companies like WARD'S selling common varieties of invertebrate and plant fossils (but I always stay away from real fossils belonging to the monophyletic clade Vertebrata as a strong supporter of SVP's ethics statements). Please note that I wish not to spark the discussion on the ethics concerning commercialization of fossils and will not participate in such a thread should it arise here. I'm sure that that was not James's intention either when he wrote "Of course it is another question if you want to buy any fossils commercially." I have not yet received any offer for monoplacophoran material...so, the saga continues... ...and I looked at WARDS' websites but I could not locate monoplacophorans (can you tell me the exact site?). In his private message to me, Peter Kaplan suggested me that, if I ask paleonetters for bellerophontids (not exactly monoplacophorans, but which I also don't have and still may be able to tie them with monoplacophorans in my lectures), I may have a shot, but that would be my "Plan B." Boy, monoplacophorans are really elusive--a true "living fossil" that still lives only in my dreams... Kenshu _________________________________ Kenshu Shimada, Ph.D. Associate Professor Environmental Science Program and Department of Biological Sciences DePaul University 2325 N. Clifton Avenue Chicago, Illinois 60614, USA and Research Associate in Paleontology Sternberg Museum of Natural History Fort Hays State University 3000 Sternberg Drive Hays, Kansas 67601, USA http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaResearch.htm http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaPictures.htm http://www.fhsu.edu/sternberg/staff.shtml#paleo http://www.nikkei.co.jp/topic5/kyoryu/tokushu/20060712e2g0301i04.html#sh imada -----Original Message----- From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On Behalf Of James Mahaffy Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:51 AM To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet Monoplacophoran specimens Folks, I assume Kenshu already got his monoplacophora fossils. If not I have found Ward's Geology to be a good source for some fossils I needed for my courses. A look at the web also shows that monoplacophora fossils are not that pricey (about $7). Of course it is another question if you want to buy any fossils commercially. Now if he wants some Pennsylvanian lycopod leaves or Lepidodendron, I could send him or others a few. However Chicago is close enough to Mazon Creek so he should have drawers full of coal-swamp fossils. -- James Mahaffy (mahaffy@dordt.edu) Phone: 712 722-6279 498 4th Ave NE Biology Department FAX : 712 722-1198 Dordt College, Sioux Center IA 51250-1697 >>> On 10/8/2006 at 6:02 PM, in message <C43572B434098741B233313996F8BAF601FAFDB1@XVS01.dpu.depaul.edu>, "Shimada, Kenshu" <KSHIMADA@depaul.edu> wrote: > Dear Paleo-netters, > > I teach a couple of paleo-related courses in Chicago (DePaul University) > on a regular basis, and I'm also developing a couple of new courses. In > my classes, I use many demonstrations of actual fossils and casts/models > of fossils as well as modern comparative specimens. > > I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this, but does anyone, or any institution, > out there have surplus of monoplacophoran specimens who/that can share > one or a few samples with me? I can reimburse the shipping > cost--provided that it won't be a mountain full of monoplacophorans! :) > I know asking for extant specimens would be a stretch, but I don't have > even one fossil specimen of this taxon to show to my students. The > specimen(s) does/do not need to be first class as long as it/they > show(s) a characteristic limpet-like shell (but I note that I can > tolerate two-dimensionally flattened specimens). In fact, while it > would still be nice to have the information, the specimen(s) does/do not > need to accompany the exact locality and stratigraphic data for the > purpose of my classes. If you can help me out on this, please reply me > off list. Thank you. > > Sincerely, > Kenshu > _________________________________ > Kenshu Shimada, Ph.D. > Associate Professor > Environmental Science Program > and Department of Biological Sciences > DePaul University > 2325 N. Clifton Avenue > Chicago, Illinois 60614, USA > and > Research Associate in Paleontology > Sternberg Museum of Natural History > Fort Hays State University > 3000 Sternberg Drive > Hays, Kansas 67601, USA > http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaResearch.htm > http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaPictures.htm > http://www.fhsu.edu/sternberg/staff.shtml#paleo > http://www.nikkei.co.jp/topic5/kyoryu/tokushu/20060712e2g0301i04.html#sh > imada
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