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RE: paleonet Monoplacophoran specimens



Dear all,

James--Thanks for offering me lycopod specimens, but as you have
suspected, yes, I have inherited some Paleozoic plants from a colleague
of mine, including lycopods, sphenopsids, ferns, and "early"
gymnosperms, just enough for my courses.

While I want to avoid "purchasing" any sorts of fossils as much as
possible, I don't have any problem with educational supplying companies
like WARD'S selling common varieties of invertebrate and plant fossils
(but I always stay away from real fossils belonging to the monophyletic
clade Vertebrata as a strong supporter of SVP's ethics statements).
Please note that I wish not to spark the discussion on the ethics
concerning commercialization of fossils and will not participate in such
a thread should it arise here.  I'm sure that that was not James's
intention either when he wrote "Of course it is another question if you
want to buy any fossils commercially."

I have not yet received any offer for monoplacophoran material...so, the
saga continues...  ...and I looked at WARDS' websites but I could not
locate monoplacophorans (can you tell me the exact site?).  In his
private message to me, Peter Kaplan suggested me that, if I ask
paleonetters for bellerophontids (not exactly monoplacophorans, but
which I also don't have and still may be able to tie them with
monoplacophorans in my lectures), I may have a shot, but that would be
my "Plan B."  Boy, monoplacophorans are really elusive--a true "living
fossil" that still lives only in my dreams...

Kenshu
_________________________________
Kenshu Shimada, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Environmental Science Program
   and Department of Biological Sciences
DePaul University
2325 N. Clifton Avenue
Chicago, Illinois 60614, USA
      and
Research Associate in Paleontology
Sternberg Museum of Natural History
Fort Hays State University
3000 Sternberg Drive
Hays, Kansas 67601, USA
http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaResearch.htm
http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaPictures.htm
http://www.fhsu.edu/sternberg/staff.shtml#paleo
http://www.nikkei.co.jp/topic5/kyoryu/tokushu/20060712e2g0301i04.html#sh
imada


-----Original Message-----
From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On
Behalf Of James Mahaffy
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 8:51 AM
To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
Subject: Re: paleonet Monoplacophoran specimens

Folks,

I assume Kenshu already got his monoplacophora fossils.  If not I have
found Ward's Geology to 
be a good source for some fossils I needed for my courses.  A look at
the web also shows that monoplacophora fossils are not that pricey
(about $7).  Of course it is another question if you want to buy any
fossils commercially.

Now if he wants some Pennsylvanian lycopod leaves or Lepidodendron, I
could send him or others a few.  However Chicago is close enough to
Mazon Creek so he should have drawers full of coal-swamp fossils.
-- 

James Mahaffy (mahaffy@dordt.edu)          Phone: 712 722-6279
498 4th Ave NE
Biology Department                                     FAX :  712
722-1198
Dordt College, Sioux Center IA 51250-1697

>>> On 10/8/2006 at 6:02 PM, in message
<C43572B434098741B233313996F8BAF601FAFDB1@XVS01.dpu.depaul.edu>,
"Shimada,
Kenshu" <KSHIMADA@depaul.edu> wrote:
> Dear Paleo-netters,
> 
> I teach a couple of paleo-related courses in Chicago (DePaul
University)
> on a regular basis, and I'm also developing a couple of new courses. 
In
> my classes, I use many demonstrations of actual fossils and
casts/models
> of fossils as well as modern comparative specimens.
> 
> I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this, but does anyone, or any
institution,
> out there have surplus of monoplacophoran specimens who/that can
share
> one or a few samples with me?  I can reimburse the shipping
> cost--provided that it won't be a mountain full of monoplacophorans!
:)
> I know asking for extant specimens would be a stretch, but I don't
have
> even one fossil specimen of this taxon to show to my students.  The
> specimen(s) does/do not need to be first class as long as it/they
> show(s) a characteristic limpet-like shell (but I note that I can
> tolerate two-dimensionally flattened specimens).  In fact, while it
> would still be nice to have the information, the specimen(s) does/do
not
> need to accompany the exact locality and stratigraphic data for the
> purpose of my classes.  If you can help me out on this, please reply
me
> off list.  Thank you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Kenshu
> _________________________________
> Kenshu Shimada, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Environmental Science Program
>    and Department of Biological Sciences
> DePaul University
> 2325 N. Clifton Avenue
> Chicago, Illinois 60614, USA
>       and
> Research Associate in Paleontology
> Sternberg Museum of Natural History
> Fort Hays State University
> 3000 Sternberg Drive
> Hays, Kansas 67601, USA
> http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaResearch.htm 
> http://gis.depaul.edu/envirsci/Administrative/ShimadaPictures.htm 
> http://www.fhsu.edu/sternberg/staff.shtml#paleo 
>
http://www.nikkei.co.jp/topic5/kyoryu/tokushu/20060712e2g0301i04.html#sh

> imada