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Dear Peter, Thank you for your kind words, however I think it has to be taken quite serious when taxon names are used without reference and I have to confess I still worry a bit about the primary origin of this name.. ;) ...And I am still interested if anybody knows about the origin of the species and/or genus? In fact I see a big problem when taxon names are used without systematic section explaining the authors taxonomic concept. In the particular example it would mean that the data referrring to the G. mitra used in this paper is useless, unless it cannot be clarified which taxon was meant - the experiment cannot be repeated. best regards, Robert > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk]Im > Auftrag von Peter Paul Smolka > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Juli 2006 11:06 > An: PaleoNet > Betreff: Re: paleonet Origin of genus Globigerinellopsis and species > Globigerinellopsis mitra > > > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Robert Huber wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:24:11 +0200 > > From: Robert Huber <robert.huber@stratigraphy.net> > > Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk > > To: PaleoNet <PaleoNet@nhm.ac.uk> > > Subject: paleonet Origin of genus Globigerinellopsis and species > > Globigerinellopsis mitra > > > > Dear all, > > > > Recently I was playing with the CHRONOS tool which frequently > > sends database queries to my TaxonConcept toy. One of the > > 'demo taxa queries' I received many times was for the taxon > > Globigerinoides mitra, which is fine.. > > > > When comparing the TaxonConcept search results with those of > > CHRONOS I found that CHRONOS has listed a synonym called > > 'Globigerinellopsis mitra. ' > > > > I never heard of this Genus, which doesn't mean too much ;), > > but I got curious and tried to find out where the name comes > > from using several databases with little success. > > > > The only hits I got was from literature databases was the > > article: > > Boersma, A. 1984 Cretaceou-{Tertiary planktonic foraminiferas > > from the south-eastern Atlantic, Walvis Ridge area, Deep Sea > > Drilling Project Leg 74. Initial Rep. DSDP 74,501-523 > > But here the name is only used in relative abundance counts a > > Dear Robert, > > within the DSDP (= not ODP and not IODP) several species have been > identified only by one author - e.g. those being familiar with > the basin/ocean that was drilled. > > Referring to that some authors working on Neogene paleotemperatures > excluded in their software all species from the DSDP database (first > the DSDP paleontology tape, then the CD now the databases) that > fulfil above criterion. > > I think, amongst others, possible K. Romine or Moore and Lombari > did so. > > In case you aim at optimizing pangae (or others Chronos, etc.) you > might introduce a "synonym option". > > This option might in the paleoecologica processing consider for > example abve G. mitra as being the mentioned synonym. > > I did it this way for example for "typing-error synonyms", e.g. > replacing some Neogloboquadrina achyderma by Neogloboquadrina pachderma > with (S) and (D) as appropriately. > > To conclude: > > (1) I would not be too worried about the primary origin of the name. > (2) I would include an option to use the synonym instead, e.g. leave > the original database as it is, but software analzing watermasses > might consider synonyms. > > Above mentioned "DSDP-phenomenon" (species observed only by one > author) is not a single case. > > > > sytematic section is missing. > > Other hits lead me to the PANGAEA database where other species > > count data from A. Boersma are listed. > > > > I am still wondering where the genus name comes from (is it a > > valid name?)and if Globigerinellopsis mitra is really a synonym > > for Globigerinoides mitra... > > Maybe someone can direct me to some reference(s)? > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Robert > > Best regards > > Peter > > > > > P.S: > > Here are some links to CHRONOS/TaxonConcept/Pangaea if you > > want to test the queries yourself: > > > > http://portal.chronos.org/gridsphere/gridsphere?cid=xqe_beta > > http://taxonconcept.stratigraphy.net > > http://www.pangaea.de/PangaVista > > > > > > Dr. Robert Huber > > WDC-MARE / PANGAEA - www.pangaea.de, www.wdc-mare.org > > Stratigraphy.net - www.stratigraphy.net > > _____________________________________________ > > MARUM - Institute for Marine Environmental Sciences (location) > > University Bremen > > Leobener Strasse > > POP 330 440 > > 28359 Bremen > > Phone ++49 421 218-65593, Fax ++49 421 218-65505 > > e-mail rhuber@wdc-mare.org, robert.huber@stratigraphy.net > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > Dr. Peter P. Smolka > University Muenster > Geological Institute > Corrensstr. 24 > D-48149 Muenster > > Tel.: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 > Fax: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 > E-Mail: smolka@uni-muenster.de > E-Mail: PSmolka@T-Online.de > ********************************************************************** >
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