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As part of a class entitled "Science and Religion", I took my Earth Science Education Majors on a Field Trip to Glen Rose, Texas to view the dinosaur footprints excavated there. We also toured the Creation Museum that you can view on this website. Make certain to click on the tab entitled "Evidence". These people are deadly serious. A couple of months later a "Dr. Patton" - a geologist with some very unusual credentials - was sponsored by a local church to come to Beaumont and speak to my students at Lamar University. I briefed my students extensively on what to expect and what to ask ... and they did a pretty good job, but this guy was good. He used basic geologic tenets and twisted them ever so persuasively into "proofs". I also invited a serious of pastors from a spectrum of faiths to speak on the topic and was amazed at the depth and variety of Creation myths. Believe that this is going on and believe that we scientists need to put ourselves out there to explain. My Department Chair was one of those who felt that even looking at this material or speaking to these people endorses their work. I felt that it is necessary to inform our students (especially those who are going to teach science in the public schools) what is out there. "Know thine enemy", for a Biblical reason. Subsequently, my Department Chair let me go as an Adjunct Instructor (specifically because of this course) and I.D. (also called "Christ's Science" locally) is being taught in the greater Southeast Texas area. There is a generation of children coming up who are so immersed and brainwashed in this stuff that I fear that outcome as much as I fear the products of those who are brainwashed radical Islamists. We cannot fix this at the University level. It is too late by then and they have been briefed on the "heresy" they are going to hear from the professors. Equally wrong are the professors (and there are several at my old university) who tell their Freshmen that "everything you heard in church about creation is baloney". http://www.creationevidence.org/cemframes.html --- "Andrea C. Repetto" <andreacr@u.washington.edu> wrote: > If they don't find it in the next X number of > months, then they will try to keep finding it for > the next X number of months, and so on. After a > while, their focus will shift to something else, and > it will not go down in their history as a failure; > it simply won't go down in their history at all. > If these were people that learned from their > mitakes, these myths would not exist. > Andrea > > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, baldwin wrote: > > > Frank, > > > > Is this the same Paley that found the watch on > Hampstead Heath? > > > > But don't knock this too far. At least (perhaps > unwittingly) Paley proposes to > > do something that in the end has to be testable > and knowable: they do or they > > don't find their display specimens. If they don't > - what then? > > > > Chris Baldwin > > > > Frank Holterhoff wrote: > >> Have you folks seen this one yet? > >> > >> > http://objectiveministries.org/creation/projectpterosaur.html > >> > >> I wish I had the time on my hands that some > people seem to. > >> > >> F > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > "You are in error. No one is screaming. Thank you > for your cooperation." > -Paranoia > > > > Dee Ann Cooper, BS, MS, PG Phone: (409) 751-6907 Address: 17890 Nonie Lane, Lumberton, TX 77657
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