RE: paleonet ID and function discussion

["Dr. Lisa E. Park" <lepark@xxxxxxxxxx>]

You might also want to check out Ken Miller's refutation of the irreducible
complexity.  He has eloquently picked apart the eye and mousetrap arguments
of Behe and others.  I think that the ID people just keep coming up with
different 'arguments' as theirs keep getting refuted.  They are now big on
the complexities of the cell.  I think that the obvious response to most of
their complexity arguments is that just because we do not understand
something is not proof that it was divinely created.  There are a lot of
areas in science that we do not completely understand.  However, once you
begin using the "God of the Gaps" argument, you are really going down a
rocky road, theologically speaking.

By the way, I did a quick, back of the envelope, calculation and estimated
that there are probably over 4 million peer-reviewed scientific papers that
have been published in biology and paleontology that support evolution.  I
am not sure, but I don't think there has been any supporting ID, although
someone told me the other day that one got published in a molecular journal
recently.  Does anyone know of that paper?

Cheers,
Lisa

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:59 AM
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Subject: paleonet ID and function discussion


First of all, I would like to thank everyone who has responded to my
query.  I have learned a great deal from this active discussion.   We
need to continue to emphasize, in every forum we have available, that ID
is not science and is poor philosophy.

Glenn Branch sent an interesting and apropos online article by Shanks
and Joplin , http://www.etsu.edu/philos/faculty/niall/complexi.htm that
is well worth looking at.

- Roy
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