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After intense centuries of search I fould a website sell good cheap containers: http://www.shcweb.co.uk/index.html If you fins a better alternative let us know! Respectfully, Xavier Panades I Blas 55, Marksbury Road Bedminster Bristol BS3 5JY England (EC) http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ From: Judith Harris <harrisj@valornet.com> Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet Re: Re: Euthecodon from the Maastrichtian phosphates Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:11:48 -0600 The Pakistan group may know about this specimen. You could email Kay Behrensmeyer or David Pilbeam about it. Kay's address is Behrensmeyer.Kay@NMNH.SI.EDU. Judith Harris On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:23 PM, James Mahaffy wrote: >Wouldn't he have left field notes that would tell you where he was? But I >notice you are from Bristol where he taught so I assume you have checked >for notes. > >James Mahaffy (mahaffy@dordt.edu) Phone: 712 722-6279 >498 4th Ave NE >Biology Department FAX : 712 722-6336 >Dordt College, Sioux Center IA 51250-1697 > > >>> cogombra@hotmail.com 06/08/05 11:43 AM >>> >Thank you very much for your help. > > >A fossil specimen was collected by Prof. B. Savage. On its side it says >that >was uncovered in Dhok Yakoob a little village near Uchhri. Dhok Yakoob is >a >very common name in Pakistan. >In fact, Multimaps says that Dhok Yakoob is or is in Duzab, Balochistan, >Pakistan away from Uchhri. > >http://www.multimap.com/map/places.cgi? >client=public&lang=&db=w3&overviewmap=&country=Pakistan&place=Dhok +Yakoob > >I was suggested by Prof. Sahni to contact "the French group, Ginsburg >(?Paris) did subsequent work there!" > >Please, I would appreciate if somebody could help us here in anyway! > > >Respectfully, > >Xavier Panades I Blas >55, Marksbury Road >Bedminster >Bristol BS3 5JY >England (EC) > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jason Head <head.jason@nmnh.si.edu> >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Uchri, Dhok Yakoob Please, help >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 10:19:53 -0400 > >Then the egg is probably not from the Siwalik Group. > > > > > >Hi Jason > > > >Thank you for your email. > > > >Multimaps says that Dhok Yakoob is or is in Duzab, Balochistan, Pakistan > > > >http://www.multimap.com/map/places.cgi? >client=public&lang=&db=w3&overviewmap=&country=Pakistan&place=Dhok +Yakoob > > > >Respectfully, > > > >Xavier Panades I Blas > >55, Marksbury Road > >Bedminster > >Bristol BS3 5JY > >England (EC) > > > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jason Head <head.jason@nmnh.si.edu> > >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Re: Uchri, Dhok Yakoob Please, help > >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:51:26 -0400 > > > >Xavier: > > > >The prefix "Dhok" is used to designate towns/villages. So, Dhok Yakoob >is > >the town near where the specimen was found. But, I've never heard of it > >(Dhoks are often very small). Try www.multimap.com. Siwalik Group > >formations are not usually laterally continuous beyond tens of >kilometers. > >Compare the West et al. 1991 JVP Siwaliks from Nepal with the >stratigraphy > >from Pakistan (look at the Badgley and Behrensmeyer edited volume in > >Palaeo3 from 1995). If you can find Dhok Yakoob and place within the > >geological section then you can say for sure what formation it is in. >If > >you can roughly pinpoint the locality to close to the Salt Range on the > >Potwar Plateau (after checking that Paleo3 issue) then you can make an > >educated guess. Otherwise, you're not going to be able to say much. > > > >Good luck > > > >Respectfully, > >Xavier Panades I Blas >55, Marksbury Road >Bedminster >Bristol BS3 5JY >England (EC) > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jason Head <head.jason@nmnh.si.edu> >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Uchri, Dhok Yakoob Please, help >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:51:26 -0400 > >Xavier: > >The prefix "Dhok" is used to designate towns/villages. So, Dhok Yakoob is >the town near where the specimen was found. But, I've never heard of it >(Dhoks are often very small). Try www.multimap.com. Siwalik Group >formations are not usually laterally continuous beyond tens of kilometers. >Compare the West et al. 1991 JVP Siwaliks from Nepal with the stratigraphy >from Pakistan (look at the Badgley and Behrensmeyer edited volume in >Palaeo3 >from 1995). If you can find Dhok Yakoob and place within the geological >section then you can say for sure what formation it is in. If you can >roughly pinpoint the locality to close to the Salt Range on the Potwar >Plateau (after checking that Paleo3 issue) then you can make an educated >guess. Otherwise, you're not going to be able to say much. > >Good luck > > > > > >Hi Jason, > > > >I am writing to you to confirm that the fossil crocodile egg after some > >research comes from Uchri (Dhok Yakoob). We are trying to figure out > >whether Dhok Yakoob is the locality where it was found or the name of >the > >collector. > >Hence, as you said the Chinji Formation doesn't crop out in Uchri. > > > >Please, I would appreciate if you could confirm that Dhok Yakoob is a > >village near Uchri, and what formation crops out in Uchri. > > > > > >Respectfully, > > > >Xavier Panades I Blas > >55, Marksbury Road > >Bedminster > >Bristol BS3 5JY > >England (EC) > > > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jason Head <head.jason@nmnh.si.edu> > >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> > >CC: amarquez@bio.fsu.edu > >Subject: Re: Errors? > >Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:13:10 -0500 > > > >Xavier: > > > >I decided not to contribute to your original paper for two reasons. >First, > >I do not agree with the practice of naming egg-based taxa. The fossil > >record is already crowded with untestable taxonomic hypotheses, and >ootaxa > >are extremely difficult to diagnose to generic or specific taxonomic > >levels. Second, you could not provide any specific information on the > >geographic area where the egg was found, and the generalized geographic > >information you provided is from a region where the Chinji Formation > >doesn't crop out (to my knowledge). > > As for you points below: 1) there are several hundred Chinji > >Formation localities on the Potwar Plateau, and almost all are precisely > >mapped stratigraphically and geographically. Adding a reference to an > >indeterminate locality in the formation will only bring confusion; 2) If >I > >am reading this correctly, you are being circular. You cannot say that >the > >egg corresponds to Rhamphosuchus because it is large and use this > >correspondence say that large eggs equal large organisms. Furthermore, > >Rhamphosuchus is represented by only a handful of specimens, and is not >the > >only Siwalik crocodyloid. If you are going to use size as a taxonomic > >criterion, then you have to determine body size for Rhamphosuchus, for > >which there is very little data, and then determine the relationship > >between egg size and body size in crocodilians, for which there is >limited > >data. At best, you are speculating as to taxonomic affinities; 3) We > >already know that there are large crocodilians from the Potwar Plateau- > >they were some of the first fossils ever described from the Siwalik >Group. > > For all of these reasons, I cannot help you with your research, and > >hope you will seriously reconsider making any taxonomic assignment to >the > >specimen beyond "Crocodyloidea indeterminate". > > > >Good luck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Respectfully, > >Xavier Panades I Blas >55, Marksbury Road >Bedminster >Bristol BS3 5JY >England (EC) > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "eric.buffetaut" <eric.buffetaut@wanadoo.fr> >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Re: Euthecodon from the Maastrichtian phosphates >Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 17:52:43 +0200 > >Hi, > >I've got them this time. One of them ("Morocco 21") is not very >informative, >as it does not show the alveoli. The other one is more useful, but I do >not >think it can support the occurrence of Euthecodon in the Maastrichtian >phosphates, because the alveolar rims are not as protruding as in >Euthecodon. Various long-snouted crocodilians can show this degree of >alveolar rim protrusion. In that particular case, it may be a dyrosaurid, >but that seems difficult to demonstrate on the basis of the available >material, which shows few diagnostic features. >I'm afraid it cannot be identified beyond "longirostrine crocodilian". > >Best regards, > >Eric > >Eric BUFFETAUT >CNRS (UMR 5125) >16 cour du Liégat >75013 Paris >tél/phone: 01 45 84 81 45 >e-mail: eric.buffetaut@wanadoo.fr >----- Original Message ----- From: "Xavier Panades I Blas" ><cogombra@hotmail.com> >To: <eric.buffetaut@wanadoo.fr> >Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:40 PM >Subject: FW: Re: Euthecodon from the Maastrichtian phosphates > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I got temporatly A. P. CS and I recovered the pictures I am sending you! > > > >Please, confirm me that they reached you. > > > > > > > >Respectfully, > > > >Xavier Panades I Blas > >55, Marksbury Road > >Bedminster > >Bristol BS3 5JY > >England (EC) > > > >http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: chris brochu <cbrochu@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> > >To: "Xavier Panades I Blas" <cogombra@hotmail.com> > >Subject: Re: Euthecodon from the Maastrichtian phosphates > >Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:25:07 -0500 > > > >>Hi Chris, > >> > >>I need help in this one. > >> > >>I am finishing a publication where I describe an African Euthecodon >from > >>the Maastrichtian phosphates. > >> > >>The remains come from Morocco the area of Erfoud collected by a shepard > >>close friend of mine that dies recently. He brought it all the way back > >>from there for me. > >> > >>What are the phylogenetic implications of this fact? > >> > >>You welcome to collaborate and guide me a bit! > >> > >>Respectfully, > > > > > > > >I'd want to see what this material looks like before commenting further. >If > >it's primarily jaw and snout material, I would be **very** careful about > >assigning it to Euthecodon - there are many crocodyliforms with > >well-developed alveolar processes. > > > > > > > > > >chris > >-- > >Christopher A. Brochu > >Assistant Professor > >Department of Geoscience > >University of Iowa > >Iowa City, IA 52242 > > > >phone: 319-353-1808 > >fax: 319-335-1821 > >email: christopher-brochu@uiowa.edu > > > > > > >
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