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Re: paleonet How about some numbers?



Ouch!  Now I can see a little better why  y'all are so upset.  Where did 
these people go to school?  I am, among other things, a former high school 
phys/chem teacher AND church "youth" leader (actually primary school aged 
children).  They sure did not go through one of my classes.  I openly tread 
on thin ice.  I always stated openly that anyone that had conflicts would be 
more than welcome to discuss it after school or RA mtg; which was and still 
remains counter to official school district policy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Glass" <aglass@uiuc.edu>
To: <paleonet@nhm.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: paleonet How about some numbers?


Seeking to lower the "heat index" of the current science-religion
discussion with information....

For those of you who love numbers and statistics (and I know you do...)
here are some more to stimulate your brains with.  Gallup just released a
new poll on America's view on creationism, evolution, biblical "literalism"
etc.

See if you were a regular visitor to the NCSE website (www.ncseweb.org) you
would already have known about this poll...:)

You can read a short article on the results here:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/?ci=14107

It is a sobering message - believe me.

People have been throwing a lot of labels around during this discussion
such as "fundamentalist", "evangelical" and "biblical literalist".  It has
been said that "Nothing about religion is simple" (that's a plug for all
you Dune fans...) and different people appear to "hear" different things
when confronted by these terms.  Just for consistency...this website gives
a nice little introduction to these terms, their definitions, and their
socio-political-religious history.  I can't vouch for accuracy but I found
the Institute for the Study of American Evangelicals at Wheaton College an
enlightening resource (yes that is THE Wheaton College of the PBS/WGBH
Evolution series fame).  So directly from the horse's mouth (so to speak):

http://www.wheaton.edu/isae/defining_evangelicalism.html#Defining

DISCLAIMER: I apologize if all of this is old news to you.  I fear that
some of the most recent paleonet postings may have involuntarily been
filtered down my spam/virus drain rather than land in my inbox.  Our server
is currently being bombarded by an unprecedented amount of spam mail.

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Alexander Glass
Paleobiology of ophiuroids, asteroids, and crinoids

Ph. D. Candidate
Department of Geology
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1301 West Green Street, NHB 245
Urbana, IL 61801
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