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In article <E1CQ6rZ-0001VN-00@newt.nhm.ac.uk>, "Paul Loubere" <T60PWL1@wpo.cso.niu.edu> wrote: > The secular states of modern Europe do not understand the > fundamentalism of > the American electorate. > Indeed. And this is a two-way street (with traffic driving on the left, as is proper <G>). I suspect that many Americans little realise how irrelevant religion seems to many people in the Old World. I was thinking about the original poster's concerns, and trying to think how on Earth this could affect me. I then did a quick mental count up of the various people who I know : I know a grand total of one (1) person who (claims) that she goes to church regularly, and with her husband being a card-carrying member of the Communist Party and an avowed (if not a *considered*) atheist, I take care to steer clear of any religious or spiritual topics when I meet them. I know 3 people who *I think* are muslims. I know probably of the order of a thousand people over-all, most of whom make no reference to religion in their interaction with me, or in their daily life. Why would they? (I just remembered that member of my caving club is a religious - I *think he mentioned being a christian - or did I spot some paraphernalia when we were "down the hole" - can't remember. So that's doubled the count of christians.) Now, I do have very distinct views on religion - I think Dawkins is a little too gentle on them, so possibly there are a number of people who keep their handicaps quiet when I'm around - but I don't think I'm *particularly* unusual. Apparently "sub-tropical Aberdeen" is due to receive another visitation from some American evangelists who have decided that we're the "most ungodly city in Britain" (on what delusional basis I neither know nor care). Well, that will be greeted with indifference by the man in the street (and if they use the same offices they did last time, the boys and girls in the red light district will be getting earache and "business". Well, the Americans paid their hotel (and brothel) fees on time, so they'll be welcomed with open tills. Seems they don't pay their domain registration fees though - their enduring ripples on the consciousness of Britain can be found at http://www.scottishmediamonitor.com/articles2.cfm?ID=116, about half way down the page. ... ah, I actually find that the Americans *were* here in July and August. Clearly they made even less impression this time around. Anyway, my point is this : European people may well have little understanding of the religious fundamentalism of America; but equally there are obviously Americans, in non-trivial quantities, who simply fail to understand European secularism. And probably both groups don't care what the others think of them. -- Aidan Karley, Aberdeen, Scotland, Location: 57°10'11" N, 02°08'43" W (sub-tropical Aberdeen), 0.021233
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