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Sorry for clogging your e-mail again, but I'm not sure what happened with that last e-mail--it wasn't intended for PaleoNet.  My sincerest apologies.


----- Original Message -----
From: margaret fraiser <fraiser@usc.edu>
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2004 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: paleonet Moral Values Means Anti-Science

> This is the kind of response I was afraid of getting from your family.
> 
> I'm sorry, but 50% isn't good enough!!!
> 
> ________________________________________
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John F Bratton <jbratton@usgs.gov>
> Date: Thursday, November 4, 2004 11:35 am
> Subject: Re: paleonet Moral Values Means Anti-Science
> 
> > 
> > Lisa Park wrote:

> > 
> > >>The time is now for all of us to come together and realize what is
> > happening.  One THIRD of Americans are evangelical Christians.  They
> > interpret the Bible literally, which means that they do not 
> believe 
> > Earthis >>4.6 billion years old, but do believe that the Flood 
> > caused the Grand
> > Canyon.  What was once thought of as a "fringe" element in 
> American 
> >
> societyhas become the majority and, as witnessed on Tuesday, they 
> > >>VOTE.
> > 
> > >>The question is?..what are we going to do?  To borrow from two 
> > recentcampaign ads: there ARE wolves lurking in the forest?are we 
> > going to bury
> > our heads in the sand?
> > 
> > Richard Dawkins has said, "It is absolutely safe to say that, if 
> > you meet
> > somebody who claims not to believe in evolution, that person is 
> > ignorant,stupid or insane (or wicked, but I'd rather not consider 
> > that)."
> > 
> > Nice.
> > 
> > 
> > According to Barna (
> > http://www.barna.org/FlexPa
ge.aspx?Page=Topic&TopicID=11) only 8% of
> > Americans were evangelical Christians in 2000, but 43% of 
> Americans 
> > areregular churchgoers.
> > 
> > 
> > Equating opposition to abortion and gay marriage with being anti-
> > science is
> > a gross mischaracterization.  For example, Catholics make up 
> about 
> > 24% of
> > the U.S. population.  Well over half voted for Bush, even though 
> > Kerry is
> > Catholic, particularly because of abortion, gay-
> marriage, and stem 
> > celldifferences.  The Catholic church has no problem with 
> > evolution, and
> > insists only on the special creation of the human soul.  
> Continuing to
> > sweep all religious people into a "fringe" fundamentalist bin and
> > demonizing them as the enemies of science and reason only 
> > perpetuates the
> > faulty warfare description of the relationship between science and
> > religion.  Over 50% of Americans believe evolution happened, and 
> > 75% of
> > those believe in God.  Abstracts of 
some of the presentations 
> from 
> > a GSA
> > session last year on the topic may be informative [see
> > http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2003AM/finalprogram/session_9703.htm ]
> > 
> > Damnant quod non intelligunt cuts both ways.
> > 
> > 
> > -John Bratton
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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