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Having watched National geographic footage of African crocs taking wildebeest at river edges, I would suspect that very large crocs, such as Deinosuchus, were probably the top (super) predators in continental ecosystems. A T. rex, grabbed by the snout while taking a drink, dragged into the water, and subjected to the death roll, would probably not have had much of a chance. Of course, this heretical suggestion that dinosaurs were not the greatest and meanest vertebrates of all time might bring me to the attention of the Royal Office of the Dinosaurian Inquisition, in which case I will recant. Dan _______________________ Daniel J. Chure, Ph.D. Research Scientist Dinosaur National Monument Box 128 Jensen UT 84035 USA ph: 435-781-7703 dan_chure@nps.gov David Kopaska-Merkel To: "paleonet@nhm.ac.uk" <davidkm@gsa.st <paleonet@nhm.ac.uk> ate.al.us> cc: (bcc: Dan Chure/DINO/NPS) Subject: paleonet RE: 07/19/2001 mosasaurs 07:09 AM MDT Mike Everhart said: So, you ask, what's my point? .... Well, for two creatures that were "Kings" of very different worlds, they don't seem that much different from each other. But, mostly I'm wondering why mosasaurs are so easy to ignore when they were probably the most successful group of predators ever to inhabit the oceans of the Earth. It can't be just because they lived in the ocean. I mean, "Shamu", "Flipper" and "Free Willie" are doing okay. Even sharks get more respect! Gotta find a better press agent!! Tongue in cheek, :-) I think it is because mosasaurs didn't look weird enough. Plesiosaurs, T. rex and others look alien; mosasaurs look like a cross between a lizard and a fish. They don't have any outre body parts to marvel over, at least to the casual observer. They're big, but we have big sea creatures now; they're dangerous, but ditto. Nothing makes them stand out and capture the imaginations of the average person. History may have something to do with it too. If someone had ever tried hard to make the public excited about mosasaurs, the way Cope and Marsh and contemporaries did about large dinosaurs (and many others since about various creatures), maybe mosasaurs would get more respect today. Just my 2 cents. David C. Kopaska-Merkel Head, Ground Water Section Geological Survey of Alabama 420 Hackberry Ln. [no USPS delivery] PO Box 869999 Tuscaloosa AL 35486-6999 (205) 349-2852 FAX (205) 349-2861 www.gsa.state.al.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- To join sednet, an e-mail group for discussion of sedimentology, send a blank e-mail message to sednet-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. Received: from jerwood.nhm.ac.uk ([157.140.15.28]) by ccmail.itd.nps.gov with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.13) id 00C61969; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:00:01 -0400 Received: from majord by jerwood.nhm.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #4) id 15ND67-00035T-00 for paleonet-subscribers@jerwood.nhm.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:40:07 +0100 Received: from pat.nhm.ac.uk ([157.140.2.2]) by jerwood.nhm.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 15ND61-000356-00 for paleonet@jerwood.nhm.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:40:01 +0100 Received: from ns1.gsa.state.al.us ([216.109.20.5]) by pat.nhm.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 15ND5R-00044P-00 for paleonet@nhm.ac.uk; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:39:25 +0100 Received: from Spooler by ns1.gsa.state.al.us (Mercury/32 v3.21c) ID MO000760; 19 Jul 01 07:39:26 -0500 Received: from spooler by ns1.gsa.state.al.us (Mercury/32 v3.21c); 19 Jul 01 07:39:19 -0500 Received: from gsa.state.al.us (216.109.20.10) by ns1.gsa.state.al.us (Mercury/32 v3.21c) with ESMTP ID MG00075F; 19 Jul 01 07:39:11 -0500 Received: from OIL_GAS_SERVER/SpoolDir by gsa.state.al.us (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 01 07:39:11 CDT Received: from SpoolDir by OIL_GAS_SERVER (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 01 07:38:58 CDT Received: from 117.gsa.state.al.us (216.109.20.117) by gsa.state.al.us (Mercury 1.48); 19 Jul 01 07:38:58 CDT Received: by 117.gsa.state.al.us with Microsoft Mail id <01C11025.DE53E900@117.gsa.state.al.us>; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <01C11025.DE53E900@117.gsa.state.al.us> From: David Kopaska-Merkel <davidkm@gsa.state.al.us> To: "paleonet@nhm.ac.uk" <paleonet@nhm.ac.uk> Subject: paleonet RE: mosasaurs Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 07:38:56 -0500 Sender: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
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