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For those of you for whom this is not tiresome duplication, there follow just couple of points arising from the message forwarded from Sue Turner. If you subscribe to vrtpaleo, delete now. Regarding Sue's posting concerning the great conodont debate: Yes, we are saying that conodonts are vertebrates (based on anatomy, strongly supported by hard tissue histology); Yes, we are saying that conodont elements functioned as teeth (based partly on allometric arguments that they could not have been suspension-feeding devices, but more importantly on microwear analysis); Yes, we are saying that they were macrophagous (based on microwear) and that they may have been predatory; No, we are not saying that conodonts are our earliest ancestors; we are saying that they are among the earliest vertebrates known and therefore have a role to play in understanding what the earliest vertebrates were like. Regarding "the several papers out" that refute these arguments, we too would very much like to know about these, irrespective of their relative "sexiness". Hope this clarifies our position; I think these are all points on which the primary advocates of conodonts as vertebrates would agree. MARK Dr Mark A. Purnell Department of Geology, University of Leicester University Road, Leicester LE1 7RH, U.K tel: 0116 2523629 fax: 0116 2523918
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