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1. If we can't talk about what our lists are supposed to be on the lists, then forget them altogether. If you're going nuts, hit the delete button and it'll make you feel good again. I see no reason to limit our discussions to just the science. We have a lot to learn about the sociology, economics, politics, etc., of paleontology too, and this list is the best way to do it, in my opinion. You will learn more about how to be successful in the science and how to improve paleontology than reading papers in Paleobiology (NOW, don't get me wrong again--I take it, I read it, I publish in it, I chip in as a patron, I review papers for it, I used to be on the editorial board, I vote on it's policies. In other words, I like it and this is not a derogatory comment. 2. Amatuers are important to our discipline, my museum, and even my particular scientific projects where I include them all the time. I welcome serious people to the lists which is where they should be. This discussion about amateurs is very useful especially if expanded to ways to include them productively in our work or organizations. The definition problems could be a useful topic as well. 3. Cranks, miscreants, weirdos, bs-ers, etc., I have no tolerance for, and I'd feel a lot better if hitting the delete button had some direct impact on them. Maybe electrical. 4. The dinosaur list was an example not a complaint. But I'll think about my example, turn it into a complaint, and file it there not here. 5. I sure hope keeping postings professional will cause those in #3 to think about it, but I doubt it myself. 6. The traffic is heavy. I regularly get over 150 emails a day. My poor delete finger is getting raw and I'm out of memory again. Even accidentally deleted the Dean the other day--oh, well, Deans go in #3 anyway. 7. We'll see how it turns out soon enough. Jere Jere H. Lipps Professor, Department of Integrative Biology Director, Museum of Paleontology University of California at Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720 510-642-9006 fax 642-1822 jlipps@ucmp1.berkeley.edu
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