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Norm & Doug: Aren't we confusing the issue when trying to identify physical causes for the Signor-Lipps (or Sig-Lipps, or Phil & Jere, or Tom & Jerry, or whatever) Effect? It is a statistical phenomenon: whenever recovery is less than 100% complete, an instant mass extinction will look blurred in our records, in that some taxa will seem to disappear before the actual event. Stated thus, it allows a null hypothesis to be defined, assuming that probability of recovery does not vary (or varies in a knowable way) throughout the sequence. How often does that happen...? The problem is that we have to deal with the real world (always this annoying reality!), in which chances of recovery are governed by a number of non-random factors, only some of which can be controlled. Collecting bias and lithology can be, at least to some extent, but other factors cannot. If we knew the true ranges, we could calculate the recovery probabilities; and if we knew the recovery probabilities, we could calculate the true ranges. It's a kind of uncertainty principle. So I guess the only thing the S&L Effect tells us is that the fossil record is blurred. True, Pete Sadler's and Charles Marshall's work on confidence intervals for the ranges of fossils in continuous sequences is slightly more uplifting, but for specific problems such as the barren meter that started this discussion, only presences will tell us anything real, not absences. Biostratigraphy is not impossible, just imprecise. As Jere implies, we need the physical events to acquire true precision. (And the physical evidence needs biostratigraphy to tell one impact or sea-level change from the other.) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Stefan Bengtson Institute of Earth Sciences (Historical Geology & Palaeontology) Norbyvagen 22 S-752 36 Uppsala Sweden tel. +46-18 18 27 62 (work) +46-18 54 99 06 (home) +46-18 18 27 49 (fax)
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