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Both Norm and Doug have addressed what I feel to be the major issue with the S-L effect. The S-L effect is driven by the absence of data. Why these data are absence results from two sources - one of which can be "fixed", the other cannot - and as students of history we must learn to live with. (1) Some portion of the 0's in the taxon/time matrix result from sampling error - we simply have not mined all the Cretaceous rocks on the earth and therefore do not really "know" where the last "knowable" data point lies. (2) Bias produces other 0's in the taxon/time matrix - the taxon was differently removed by predators, wave action, geo-cemical factors; it wasn't in the right habitat, it was really extinct,... The important point with (2) is that it is bias, and in a statistical sense unknowable. Even if we reduced sampling error to 0, we would still have bias in our data and a S-L effect. In the real world we willprobably never be able to reduce sampling error to 0 and we cannot know what the bias component is. It is not pretty. Charles Marshall has a proceedure to estimate confidence limits for the last occurences of a taxon approaching an event (GSA, 94), but it requires continuous rather than interval data to be valid. And again, these produce null models which can be falsified. D.R. Lindberg davidl@ucmp1.Berkeley.Edu I really don't want to belabor this point (and I certainly don't want Doug to feel like he's being picked on) but Doug's comment shows just how insidious the S&L Effect is and how easy it is to see whatever we want to see in it's image. Is the Signor-Lipps Effect PRIMARILY a preservation phenomenon? Any particular Signor-Lipps pattern might be due to differential preservation. But then again it might be due to sample size/relative abundance interactions, or ecological changes. That's the problem with negative evidence. You simply can't know precisely why something is not there. Signor and Lipps (1982) list three sources for the effect without indicating which one is dominant. Within it's domain the S&L Effect is simply a statement of uncertainty. But there must be a domain outside of which the S&L Effect can be ignored. If this isn't true then I guess I don't understand how biostratigraphy is possible. Norman MacLeod Senior Research Fellow N.MacLeod@nhm.ac.uk (Internet) N.MacLeod@uk.ac.nhm (Janet) Address: Dept. of Palaeontology, The Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Office Phone: 071-938-9006 Dept. FAX: 071-938-9277
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