[Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Thread Index] [Date Prev] [Date Next] [Date Index]

Re: Trolls (was Re: paleonet Burgess Shale Fossil Theft)





I would say that It depends on the venue that the troll shows up at.  In the
past I have participated in Evolution/Creation discussion lists and it is useful
responding to trolls since a response can be educational for others on the list,
as well as good practice for written debates.  Sometimes the known trolls were
even better at presenting the creationists arguements than the creationists.

In fact if you are interested in practicing your written debate skills I would
recommend joining a C/E debate list for a few weeks or months.  I know it has
helped me with my work.  Learning to spot bad logic or poor reasoning has been
very helpful when I have had to give advice for government responses to certain
allegations against the mining industry.

However, on more serious discussion lists (similar to this one) it has been
found that the quickest way of getting rid of them is letting them starve.

So, I consider the venue.  If it is a list with a large number of lurkers who
have poor understanding of science and may learn a lot from a response I would
not hesitate in responding.  On other lists I just ignore them.  However, I
found the responses to this particular troll very interesting and seeing other
people's written approach to debate is also a learning experience.  I do not
think there is only one correct way of dealing with them.

Regards
Paul Blake











What does a freely accessible list do about trolls?  This question always
elicits a variety of opinion.

Responding to them can certainly be a fruitless and frustrating exercise and can
also become a big time sink and even an obsession in itself.  This no doubt
leads many to the conclusion that its best to simply ignore trolls.  I
understand this position but don't quite agree.

Responding does help to sharpen how you think and helps to review your own value
systems.  It is therefore marginally less pointless than not responding.

Sure, it does occupy bandwidth that can annoy many other list dwellers, and yes
it does fuel the troll ego.  As the main, and probably only, benefit of
responding is a personal one, perhaps these would be better conducted off list.

nuff said?

Andrew



Andrew Simpson
Science Museums
Division of Environmental and Life Sciences
Macquarie University NSW 2109
ph (61 2) 98508183
fax (61 2) 98509671
email: asimpson@els.mq.edu.au
http://www.museums.mq.edu.au

"The economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the environment"

>>> pblake@dme.qld.gov.au 09/06/01 07:38am >>>


I guess this is paleonet's first major troll.  Other than one other loony
earlier this year claiming that non-science (i.e. creationism) should be taught
in science class you do not get too many losers on this list.  Troll spotting is
an aquired art and learning to ignore them takes even more practice.  ^_^

Regards
Paul Blake








Hi All,
I am really disappointed about the degree of  interest that this bit of
absurdity has generated.  The next time such nonsense comes in on the
paleonet lets have the collective good sense to hit the delete button.

Pristis@aol.com wrote:

<snip>
--
Prof. Ronald L. Parsley
Department of Geology
Tulane University
New Orleans, Louisiana 70118
Phone: (504) 862-3191
FAX: (504) 865-5199
e-mail <parsley@tulane.edu>