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Michael, I read the web page you suggested, but never found the words amateur, avocational or hobbiest mentioned. In fact, it focused on a small, handpicked group of selected professionals; wasn't even open to all in the field. Is that the right formum for a discussion of avocational paleontologists? Why no representatives from the enthusiasts? I see the side effects of budget constraints, limited professional positions, less funding for grants, etc. Counter that with a ground swell of interest and a large market for books, magazines, movies and television about dinosaurs. Try to imagine 30 years ago and the reception of a book on warmblooded dinosaurs. The sales of Jurassic Park and Lost World shows tremendous interest. Why not try to leverage that interest into benfits for the science? My own experience has been that most professionals in the field are like evangelists - they're enthusiastic almost to a fault; and they will be friendly and talk to anyone interested. There are a rare few who do not want any contact with amateurs, feel it is beneath them to associate with someone without a PhD from one of the few schools left offering it in Paleontology. My reaction is to just wish them good luck in creating their clique. When the grants run out, and the teaching positions are gone, we will all be amateurs. And the bone beds will once again be open to anybody who wants to spend the time digging. I'm patient. Those who want to narrow the field are accelerating the process of returning it to amateurs. Better for everybody is to encourage this interest, use the amateurs as a resource of energy, labor or even money. Archeology has long been supported by the fascinated amateurs. (It turns out that some of them are highly successful in their own field and have lots to offer the science.) I'm amazed that interest is so high right now among children and teenagers, but the professional societies and leaders aren't trying to utilize this huge resource. Many scientists would kill to have that kind of interest in their field. Billy
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