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Re: paleonet science-faith relationship



Title: Re: paleonet science-faith relationship
science and religion are not mutually exclusive ...
they are compatible.  the Biblical account says that
God said "Let the earth bring forth ... "  and "Let
the waters bring forth ...".  This, my friends, is
evolution .... highly simplified.  God doesn't make
life in the account ... just commands it to begin.
There are many other examples in the
Christian/Judeo/Islamic holy books and in other
religions.  Read St. Augustine's early essays.

Some religions are compatible with some aspects of science.  Evangelical Christianity doesn't seem to have any problem whatsoever with the ahistorical aspects of physics, chemistry, biology or earth science.  In fact professional fields like engineering that apply principles of some principles of science to "practical use" seem to be chock full of members of the religious right.  Something about a dictum giving us dominion over Nature ...

Holy books are essentially tract-length Rorschach tests.  You can get out of them what ever you bring to them.  The people who wrote them lived in a different time and place and so brought their own experiences to the writing of those books.  That modern people try to extract meaning from stories that were based on the oral tradition of Iron Age shepherds and then written, re-written and mis-translated a few times is a dodgy enterprise at best.

Take a look at the lyrics to an Appalachian ballad sometime.  Many of them are based on one or more related Child ballads that were originally written down during the Renaissance in England or Scotland and whose roots are, of course, much deeper.  They came across the water in the 18th century and were isolated in the hollows of Appalachia for a couple hundred years by folks who didn't write them down and shifted the signifiers in the stories to match their own experience.

It's actually conceptually similar to trying to reconstruct living assemblages from fossil assemblages.  But faulty memory and changing intentions take the place of pore-water chemistry and sorting by bottom currents.  The result is the same: a time-averaged puzzle.

Science is an attempt to explain how all of this works
and religion is an attempt to explain why.

Which is why the two time-averaged puzzles, the Bible on one hand and, say, a Devonian limestone on the other are interpreted with such different intents.  We honestly want to know what the benthic environment was like in the Devonian and so scrupulously disentangle the artifactual from the factual in order to understand how it was.  And yet millions of people try to use a text that is essentially as cryptic as a shell midden to guide them toward discovering how to be and why. I sincerely wish them well.

Best wishes to all in this holiday season,
Bill
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William P. Chaisson
Adjunct Assistant Professor
Dept. Earth & Environmental Sciences
University of Rochester
Rochester, New York  14627
607-387-3892