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Yes. Roy is right. Dr. Zimmerman is targeting the Christian clergy. My apologies for not being clear. If you have any questions about this project and its impact, his email address is on that website. Lisa -----Original Message----- From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Roy Plotnick Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 5:24 PM To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet The Clergy Project As Dr. Zimmerman made clear at his presentation at North-central GSA (and you can tell from the site), the project is aimed directly at Christian clergy only at this time. A statement from Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, mystics etc. would be nice, but would really not impact the public debate the way a clear document from the mainstream Christian clergy would. - Roy Judith Harris wrote: > You forgot Buddhists, Hindus, and then all of the mystics :-) I know, > because I am one of them. > On May 24, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Dr. Lisa E. Park wrote: > >> Dear All- >> >> Recently, Michael Zimmerman from the University of Wisconsin, >> Oshkosh, set >> up something called The Clergy Project. This project attempts to get >> letters of support for evolution from US clergy members. It is a >> really >> interesting approach to this problem, and I think it is an important >> step >> towards a possible middle ground to this issue. He has a website >> for this >> at: http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/cols/clergy_project.htm >> >> I hope those who attend church, synagogue or mosque can forward this >> information to their respective clergy member. >> >> Lisa >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk]On >> Behalf Of Peter Paul Smolka >> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:37 PM >> To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >> Subject: RE: paleonet 'creation watch': Redefining what Science is? >> >> >> On Mon, 23 May 2005, Dr. Lisa E. Park wrote: >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:05:17 -0400 >>> From: Dr. Lisa E. Park <lepark@uakron.edu> >>> Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >>> To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >>> Subject: RE: paleonet good 'creation watch' web site >>> >>> >>> The scariest thing in the news lately is from Kansas.....where they >>> want >>> >> to >> >>> redefine what "Science" is. That is, in fact, the Christian >>> right's main >>> goal.....to end intellectualism in the US. The question is: did the >>> >> >> Dear Lisa, >> >> maybe you can in 1-2 lines sketch what they think (e.g. defenition of >> science by them, e.g. I have problems to understand what you wrote). >> >> Reason: Beyond intellectualism, which everybody may view as he or she >> likes, questioning science, would, as I understand it, make the US >> a country that should not been travelled. >> >> Reason: Potable water quality depends on science (diarrea as well). >> Potable water availability as well; >> >> Needless to think about aircraft maintenance. >> >> This is not meant as offence against parts of the US. Maybe I >> misunderstand above completely. Even with maximum tolerance to any >> view that might be possible: Questioning science means unsafe living. >> >> So: Do they really want to redefine Science? >> >> Best regards >> >> >> Peter >> >> ********************************************************************** >> Dr. Peter P. Smolka >> University Muenster >> Geological Institute >> Corrensstr. 24 >> D-48149 Muenster >> >> Tel.: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 >> Fax: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 >> E-Mail: smolka@uni-muenster.de >> E-Mail: PSmolka@T-Online.de >> ********************************************************************** >> >> >> >> > -- Roy E. Plotnick Professor Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences University of Illinois at Chicago 845 W. Taylor St. Chicago, IL 60607 plotnick@uic.edu office phone: 312-996-2111 fax: 312-413-2279 lab phone: 312-355-1342 web page: http://www.uic.edu/~plotnick/plotnick.htm "The scientific celebrities, forgetting their molluscs and glacial periods, gossiped about art, while devoting themselves to oysters and ices with characteristic energy.." -Little Women, Louisa May Alcott
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