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"Judith Harris wrote: You forgot Buddhists, Hindus, and then all of the mystics :-) I know, because I am one of them. On May 24, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Dr. Lisa E. Park wrote:" What a contradiction using "I" referring as a particularly defining oneself as Buddhist nystic...I thought their main point was about emptyness! Respectfully, Xavier Panades I Blas 55, Marksbury Road Bedminster Bristol BS3 5JY England (EC) http://www.acs.bolton.ac.uk/~xp1pls/ From: Roy Plotnick <plotnick@uic.edu> Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet The Clergy Project Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:24:00 -0500 As Dr. Zimmerman made clear at his presentation at North-central GSA (and you can tell from the site), the project is aimed directly at Christian clergy only at this time. A statement from Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, mystics etc. would be nice, but would really not impact the public debate the way a clear document from the mainstream Christian clergy would. - Roy Judith Harris wrote: >You forgot Buddhists, Hindus, and then all of the mystics :-) I know, >because I am one of them. >On May 24, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Dr. Lisa E. Park wrote: > >>Dear All- >> >>Recently, Michael Zimmerman from the University of Wisconsin, Oshkosh, >>set >>up something called The Clergy Project. This project attempts to get >>letters of support for evolution from US clergy members. It is a really >>interesting approach to this problem, and I think it is an important step >>towards a possible middle ground to this issue. He has a website for >>this >>at: http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/cols/clergy_project.htm >> >>I hope those who attend church, synagogue or mosque can forward this >>information to their respective clergy member. >> >>Lisa >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk]On >>Behalf Of Peter Paul Smolka >>Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:37 PM >>To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >>Subject: RE: paleonet 'creation watch': Redefining what Science is? >> >> >>On Mon, 23 May 2005, Dr. Lisa E. Park wrote: >> >> >>>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:05:17 -0400 >>>From: Dr. Lisa E. Park <lepark@uakron.edu> >>>Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >>>To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk >>>Subject: RE: paleonet good 'creation watch' web site >>> >>> >>>The scariest thing in the news lately is from Kansas.....where they want >>> >>to >> >>>redefine what "Science" is. That is, in fact, the Christian right's >>>main >>>goal.....to end intellectualism in the US. The question is: did the >>> >> >>Dear Lisa, >> >>maybe you can in 1-2 lines sketch what they think (e.g. defenition of >>science by them, e.g. I have problems to understand what you wrote). >> >>Reason: Beyond intellectualism, which everybody may view as he or she >>likes, questioning science, would, as I understand it, make the US >>a country that should not been travelled. >> >>Reason: Potable water quality depends on science (diarrea as well). >>Potable water availability as well; >> >>Needless to think about aircraft maintenance. >> >>This is not meant as offence against parts of the US. Maybe I >>misunderstand above completely. Even with maximum tolerance to any >>view that might be possible: Questioning science means unsafe living. >> >>So: Do they really want to redefine Science? >> >>Best regards >> >> >>Peter >> >>********************************************************************** >>Dr. Peter P. Smolka >>University Muenster >>Geological Institute >>Corrensstr. 24 >>D-48149 Muenster >> >>Tel.: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 >>Fax: +49/251/833-3989 +49/2533/4401 >>E-Mail: smolka@uni-muenster.de >>E-Mail: PSmolka@T-Online.de >>********************************************************************** >> >> >> >> > -- Roy E. Plotnick Professor Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences University of Illinois at Chicago 845 W. Taylor St. Chicago, IL 60607 plotnick@uic.edu office phone: 312-996-2111 fax: 312-413-2279 lab phone: 312-355-1342 web page: http://www.uic.edu/~plotnick/plotnick.htm "The scientific celebrities, forgetting their molluscs and glacial periods, gossiped about art, while devoting themselves to oysters and ices with characteristic energy.." -Little Women, Louisa May Alcott
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