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Dear All- The problem is even more complex than Jere has highlighted. That is, most of our Societies' (PalSoc, PalAss, SEPM and SVP) rely on memberships to pay for publishing their journals (Paleobiology, Journal of Paleontology, Palaeontology, Palaios, Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology). With online journal access, people have dropped their memberships because they can get the journals for free. This means that the societies lose the revenue from the memberships which pay for the costs of publishing the journals. A Catch-22, to be sure. Furthermore, with online publishing, costs do not diminish as you might think, so that makes it even more difficult for small societies to stay afloat financially. With certain publishing consortiums like BioOne and GeoscienceWorld, there is a royalty paid to the Society for every download of an article from their particular journal. Still, it is not clear how this new publishing landscape will affect the overall health of our scientific societies. The commercial publishers are a bit immune to this and have their own websites with their own journals on them. The Paleontological Society Council has been dealing with this problem for a couple of years now. We are a member of BioOne and GeoscienceWorld. PalSoc is trying hard to manuever so that our journals are still safe and can be maintained at their highest quality. Still, we are losing membership, which sustains this effort (it is our main activity as a society). I think that we all have to put our collective heads together and try to figure out what to do about this: be proactive rather than reactive. We are looking at different options for membership, so stay tuned. But, I have to agree with Jere that this is a problem....even a crisis....that most people are unaware of, unless they are journal editors, library liason, or members of the governing boards of the major societies. Best, Lisa Park Paleontology Society Coucilor At-Large-Under 40 -----Original Message----- From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk]On Behalf Of Xavier Panades I Blas Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:25 AM To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet The threat of the Publishing Crises to Paleontology Hi, An alternative to such problem has already been applied: PalArch foundation (http://www.palarch.nl/). A journal in electronic format only and free to download the three first month. The people involved are recognised scientits, and the articles review is quick. Hence, cheap to produce, easy to obtain and published, and very enviromentalist. I would re-fine the problem as "paleonet The threat of the PRESTIGIAL Publishing Crises to Paleontology" Xavier Panades I Blas, Ms Please, send letters to: 55, Marksbury Road Bedminster Bristol BS3 5JY England European Community cogombra@hotmail.com From: Pierre.Kruse@nt.gov.au Reply-To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk Subject: Re: paleonet The threat of the Publishing Crises to Paleontology Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:31:22 +0930 One way to shame the profiteers and alert scientists might be to maintain and circulate a regularly updated 'black list' of palaeo publishers/journals, ranked according to price/page or whatever criteria are judged best. One quick ready reference for the prospective palaeo paper writer or journal subscriber. _______________________________ Dr PD Kruse Northern Territory Geological Survey PO Box 3000 Darwin NT 0801 Australia Tel: (8) 8999 5451 Fax: (8) 8999 6824 Web: http://www.minerals.nt.gov.au/ntgs "Jere H. Lipps" <jlipps@berkeley. To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk edu> cc: Sent by: Subject: paleonet The threat of the Publishing Crises to Paleontology paleonet-owner@nh m.ac.uk 12/04/2005 11:19 AM Please respond to paleonet Paleonetters: Here's a problem for discussion on PaleoNet: The crises in academic publishing. It is a a very great threat to our profession of and interest in paleontology. Many professionals are not aware of this problem (on all the Univ. California campuses, only 40% of all scholars knew of this problem). It is: the commercial publishers have been increasing their costs to libraries greatly (over 200% in the past 6-7 years, while the Consumer Price Index (US) increased only 68%). The commercial publishers take in a LOT of money off of our writings, our reviewing, our intellects, and our editorial services. So good is the business that Elsevier is a recommended stock based on a captive market (i.e., a fixed number of consumers that cost little to market to). Elsevier is the largest producer of journals, but they are not alone in the pricing inflation. Even the Ministers of 34 countries ( http://dbs.cordis.lu/cgi-bin/srchidadb?CALLER=NHP_EN_NEWS&ACTION=D&SESSION=&; RCN=EN_RCN_ID:21526 ) and British MPs have criticized these trends and urged that something be done about the high costs and open access ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2004/07/20/cnsci20.xm l&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2004/07/20/ixcity.html ). Here is a site that shows the costs of various commercial journals: http://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/journals/ . A lot of information is available there. It shows also that the journals are being used, so we're facing a problem in this respect too. Here's a summary of journal costs in a few disciplines: Journal pricing across disciplines Price/Page Price/Cite Field For-profit Non-profit For-profit Non-profit Ecology $1.19 $0.19 $0.73 $0.05 Economics $0.81 $0.16 $2.33 $0.15 Atmos. Sci. $0.95 $0.15 $0.88 $0.07 Mathematics $0.70 $0.27 $1.32 $0.28 Neuroscience $0.89 $0.10 $0.23 $0.04 Physics $0.63 $0.19 $0.38 $0.05 What does this mean for paleontology? The commercial publishers charge significantly more for paleontology journals than non-profits, but that is just part of the problem. More importantly, if your library has to pay $23,820/year for Nuclear Physics, $5,760/year for the Journal of Geophysical Research, $2,155 for Journal of Econonmetrics, Cement and Concrete Research = $2,147, Chemical Physics Letters = $11,750, etc, etc., etc., then libraries are going to have to make cuts. The most common way is to cut less used journals and books. Hence, paleontology journals with small use (most all at most campuses) will be cut. You can see what the commercial publishers charge for many of their journals at this site: http://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/journals/ An example: Elsevier average title price as percentage of industry-wide average title price* Agriculture 1,428% Chemistry & Physics 194% Engineering 435% Mathematics, Botany, Geology, General Science 287% Medicine 209% Psychology 254% All subjects 642% * For 2002; calculated within disciplines; overall average based on 2003 Bowker Annual table entitled "U.S. Periodicals: Average Prices and Price Indexes"; Elsevier averages from list prices. Elsevier is the dominant commercial publisher of STM journals. It has 23% of the market share and over a $1 billion in annual revenues. The next player is the American Chemical Society with 8% market share and $360 million in annual revenues. But many other publishers charge high costs as well. The publishers may well have sound reasons to increase their product costs, but they are killing off some disciplines and some libraries, and, significantly, scholarship. The US National Institutes of Health has issued a policy that their PI's, who produce 60,000+ papers a year should make them available to the public free through an NIH service ( http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-05-022.html ). Should paleontologists do anything about this problem as well? With a large number of interested people, paleontology should also be generally available to the public, much like NIH has declared. What could we do? This is not just about our journals but we only have control to some extent over those. Many universities and librarians make the following sorts of recommendations (paraphrased here): 1. Don't publish in those journals. In the past, commercial journals picked up the excess papers over society journals, published as many pages and plates as required, and did it relatively quickly. This was a service. Now, we can achieve the same things with electronic publications sponsored by societies. Page and plate limits are not a problem, speed of publication does not have to be a problem (post the papers as soon as they are accepted), and the costs are lower. 2. Don't review for those publishers. Your services are worth something, and they, not you, benefit. 3. Don't edit for them. 4. Don't cite papers in their journals. 5. Don't accept their copyright statements (it is your work, after all), if you must publish with them. 6. Support paleontological societies and other non-profits. 7. Publish in society or non-profit journals, and in on-line journals like Palaeontologica Electronica. If you are worried about the acceptance of on-line publications on your career, please note that the readership of PE is huge compared to most paleo journals. I can also direct you to statements on acceptance by deans, chairs, or whatever kind of boss you have of electronic publication. As long as they are peer-reviewed, they will be accepted by most. Any general thoughts on this issue? If you run an on-line journal, let us know. Any other ideas? Any stories out there about this problem in your institution? Check with your library to see how it deals with this problem. Several of us would be interested in the impact of this on paleontology in other states and countries. There is a very large effort out there in general to deal with this problem--conferences, faculty proclamations, library negotiations, library refusals to subscribe, and others. Useful web sites: http://www.alpsp.org/default.htm http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/dils/lisu/index.html http://osc.universityofcalifornia.edu/ http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-05-022.html http://www.libecon.org/ http://www.plos.org/news/announce_cj.html http://palaeo-electronica.org/toc.htm Jere
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