RE: paleonet ID in the Classroom

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I'm not convinced that it's racist, but I still don't agree
with it.  -And my grandfather was from Alabama, so we could
be cousins!  I'm just a few miles away from Dayton, Tn,
home of the Scopes trial.
--- Andy Rindsberg <arindsberg@gsa.state.al.us> wrote:

> Yes. But in addition, the idea that different races of
> Homo erectus evolved
> independently on different continents into different
> races of Homo sapiens
> smacks strongly of racism. Some people still do not want
> to admit that they
> are related to all other people, even distantly. 
> 
> Hi, cousins!
> 
> Andrew K. Rindsberg
> Geological Survey of Alabama
> Just a short walk from Foster Auditorium, where Gov.
> Wallace "stood in the
> schoolhouse door"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk
> [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On Behalf
> Of Nancy Meyer
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:43 AM
> To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: paleonet ID in the Classroom
> 
> 
> This is the problem I have with the theory that Homo
> erectus evolved all over the world into the same species.
> It smacks of Intelligent Design. 
> --- Paul Blake <p.blake@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > Re: paleonet ID in the Classroom
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >     From: Bill Chaisson/Deirdre Cunningham 
> >     To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk 
> >     Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:14 AM
> >     Subject: Re: paleonet ID in the Classroom
> > 
> > 
> >     <snip>
> > 
> >       The fact that Intelligent Design is a hotly
> debated issue is an 
> > excellent reason to offer a course in the Philosophy
> Department on 
> > "The Roots of Modern Discourse concerning Evolution,"
> but it is an 
> > exceptionally lousy reason to do anything more than to
> acknowledge the
> > existence of ID and move on with a biologically and
> > paleontologically grounded course on evolution.
> > 
> > 
> >     How long could it take to outline the elements of
> intelligent 
> > design?  ID is for people who insist that there is some
> sort of 
> > purpose woven into the history of Nature.  Therefore
> adherents to ID 
> > should be discouraged from pursuing the parts of
> physics, chemistry, 
> > biology and geology that are perverted by the
> insistence on the
> > existence of an omniscient design(er).  Let them design
> > lasers and masers like Charles Towne.  And let's all
> > rebut them with vigor when they stick their noses in
> > where they will only hinder us from discovering
> something
> > closer to the truth.
> > 
> >   No.  The moder IDers insist that there are some
> > features of life (bacterial flagella, metabolic
> pathways
> > etc) or the Universe (supposedly fine-tuned for life)
> > that can not be explained by evolution/naturalism.
> > Therefore, "True" science must include supernaturalism.
> > 
> >   I find it amazing that any scientist in America,
> where
> > the front line of this war is being fought, still do
> not understand 
> > the ID position.
> > 
> >   Contact the National Centre for Science Education to
> > learn about ID and the Wedge
> >   http://www.ncseweb.org/default.asp
> > 
> >   These Neo-Creationists  are not just going to study
> > lasers just because you want them to.  They want to
> > change the "Whole Cloth" of science to fit their
> > religion.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     It is important that college students learn WHY
> many members of 
> > the scientific (and broader academic) community do NOT
> find the 
> > guiding hand of a deity to be particularly helpful or
> necessary.
> > 
> > 
> >     If a geology professor says "I don't want to talk
> > about it", then he or she is unlikely to "win any
> hearts
> > and minds", as they used to say.
> > 
> > 
> >     Bill
> >   I agree that discussion can be good.  I think courses
> > on critical thinking would do many science students a
> lot
> > of good
> > 
> >   Regards
> >   Paul Blake
> >   http://users.bigpond.net.au/paul_blake/
> >   --------------------------------------
> >   Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does
> > knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those
> who know much, 
> > who so positively assert that this or that problem will
> never be 
> > solved by science. - Charles Darwin
> >   --------------------------------------
> > 
> >    
> > --
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >     William P. Chaisson
> >     Adjunct Assistant Professor
> >     Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences
> >     University of Rochester
> >     Rochester, NY  14627
> >     607-387-3892
> > 
> > 
> >
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