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I stick to my opinion that creationists in their public and "scientific" activities act irrationally. Peter claimed that even in knowing there is believing, which implies, if I get it right, that a creationist's faith is not an element of him or her not being rational. Well, there is a lot of sense in Bill Chaisson's reply about what faith is. However, what Bill taks about is faith in the rational, scientific sense. This is when a scientist means when he says 'I "believe" in evolution'. This may mean: "I have not done any active research into this subject myself, but based on what I have read I have no reasons to reject it". The trouble is that there is another, more obvious meaning of the concepts 'faith' and 'believing', i.e. in the religious sense. Creationists don't understand the difference, hence they think that 'evolutionism' is just some sort of religious belief as well, without evidence (!), and that they have a better sort of faith to contrast it with. Faith in the religious sense and the rational domain of science are unmixable, but creationists try just the same to create this unholy alliance. Doesn't work for me. This is no call to give up faith (I won't give up mine), but to stop trying to explain the world 'scientifically' based on religious beliefs. At most, christians may accept that God is creating and has been creating according to what science says (to make a long story short). Non-christians of course don't need to bother. One of our tasks maybe: educate the masses. If we bring these sorts of points across to the people, some will even listen. Ken *************************************************************************** Dr. Kenneth A. Monsch tel +48-71-3754017 Department of Vertebrate Zoology fax +48-71-3222817 Institute of Zoology University of Wroclaw ul. H. Sienkiewicza 21 50-335 Wroclaw POLAND
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