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RE: paleonet Global sea-level curve



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Kevin,
 
Thank you very much; that confirms my impression that a lot has been learned since 1987. It recalls to me a course in structural geology, taught in the deep geologic past: Plate tectonics was still being debated, and one of the professors used wonderfully sharp photos on glass plates that were projected by a Magic Lantern. The other professor was mathematically inclined, and, after covering the blackboard with equations for an hour, would then tell us, "But none of these models work in practice." I would hit the mental "erase" button, not appreciating that these imperfect models were still the best available at the time -- and would be on the exam, but that's another story and I caught up later.
 
So the Haq curve is imperfect and we have to use it anyway while working to adjust it locally. I can live with that.
 
Cheers,
Andy
 
Andrew K. Rindsberg
Geological Survey of Alabama
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From: paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk [mailto:paleonet-owner@nhm.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Kevin Gostlin
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:51 PM
To: paleonet@nhm.ac.uk
Subject: Re: paleonet Global sea-level curve

Andy,
Only very few portions of the Haq et al sea level curve may be considered accurate.  Many lines of evidence released over the past 15 years confidently point out the numerous flaws in the development of the Haq curve.  The reality is, teasing out a global eustatic curve from the plethora of basins around the world at any time increment requires tremendous data support that is lacking for most portions of the Haq curve.  Eustasy is often overprinted by tectonic or climatic signals (or combinations thereof).  Further, the biostratigraphic dating of many of the eustatic cycles is not sufficiently refined to correlate events globally at the time scales that Haq et al claim.
 
Those who still employ the Haq curve may cite the few portions that are backed by excellent biostratigraphic control as well as comprehensive regional geologic data from each basin contributing a particular cycle.  But be warned, most cycles lack a global comprehensive data set to back a eustatic mechanism for sea level changes within a particular basin. 
 
Finally, to answer your question.  A sea level curve of the approximate frequency of the Haq curve (1 to 10 Ma) doesn't exist.
 
Hope that helps.
Kevin Gostlin
University of Toronto
 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:20 PM
Subject: paleonet Global sea-level curve

PaleoFolks,
 
Which global sea-level curve is now considered to be standard? A web search yields a welter of information that seems to cluster around brief and local modifications to the sea-level curve of Haq (1987), but it's hard to believe that anything could last so long without being superseded. After all, in 1987, I lived in another city working at another job before I was superseded. But maybe the Haq curve is more lasting.
 
Andrew K. Rindsberg
Geological Survey of Alabama