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Folks, Let me add two new wrinkles to the discussion of electronic publishing. 1. You really have to have an electronic journal that has articles of enough significance that it gets cited (or we cheat the system and cite articles form the electronic journal in our articles). I really like the idea of having scholarly information more readily available, but there is a trend in the journal business of going in the opposite direction. Unless a scholarly journal is able to get significant research from leaders in the field, folks won't publish their good work in it, especially if they are being evaluated by a University and the electronic journal will be considered second rate. I didn't realize how important this was till last year when I was following a parasitology newsgroup (for the undergrad zoology course I teach) and someone mentioned the price of one of their journals (normally $2,000), I growled about the difficulty that the cost of some of the better journals that publish in my area (Carboniferous palynology) by the same publisher. Our library can't afford them (as it is we spend more for biology than any other area) and I have to travel four hours to a major University to read journals I should be up on. It seems that some journals try and get the better people to write for their journals so they become must get journals (at least for the major Universities) and then charge very high rates assuming that most big libraries will still buy their journals. I suggested to the group that this trend (which I didn't like) was contrary to the philosophy of many of the society journals that have subscription under or a few hundred dollars and maybe we should support them. Some folks agreed that we should help society journals, but a number said that you won't get tenure unless you publish in well cited journals. And I suspect that if you can get your article is a more prestigious journal, most of us would just as soon publish there. After all who reads the Proceedings of the International Carboniferous Congress (where I published an article). And given a choice of a well known paper journal and an electronic journal on www, wouldn't most of the better articles migrate to the paper journal. Didn't GSA try publishing with microfilm for a bit? Is that still going on or did that fizzle? 2. Again I like the idea of having information at my finger tips. It would be nice to read those journals, instead of taking off for a couple of days in the summer and driving to Minneapolis or Ames. But, even if the cost of publishing is left, would there be enough folks still buying the paper versions to allow the journals to recoup the costs? Could even journals of the society philosophy survive? There is still some cost to keeping and archiving journals electronically. -- : James F. Mahaffy e-mail: mahaffy@dordt.edu Biology Department phone: 712 722-6279 Dordt College FAX 712 722-1198 Sioux Center, Iowa 51250
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