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My apologies for sending this RFD to so many mailing lists. However, the topic is quite relevant. The attached Request for Discussion calls for public comments, pro and con, especially substantive criticisms, on the Usenet newsgroup news.groups (Usenet is a form of community e-mail) but because many mailing list subscribers do not have access to Usenet, I'd like to encourage discussion of this proposal on TAXACOM. To get onto TAXACOM, send "subscribe taxacom Your Name" (substitute your own name for "Your Name" ;-) to LISTSERV@cmsa.berkeley.edu. One particular point I would like to see discussed is whether gated mailing lists are either necessary or desirable for the proposed new newsgroups. Also, what might be the ideal systematic structure of Usenet newsgroups in the sci.bio.* hierarchy? At present, sci.bio.* has newsgroups devoted to either thematic topics (evolution, ethology, ecology) or to taxa (lepidoptera, reptiles and amphibians). Would it be useful to anticipate further growth in sci.bio.* by putting the taxonomically-delimited groups together in a "natural" systematic hierarchy within sci.bio.*? Comments on the specific charters (see below) would also be appreciated. I look forward to hearing your comments, either via TAXACOM or on news.groups. Regards, Una Smith ----------------------------------------------------------------------- REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION Proposal to create: sci.bio.systematics sci.bio.botany and rename: sci.bio to sci.bio.misc Proposed by: Una Smith <una.smith@yale.edu> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the proposal to create two unmoderated Usenet newsgroups, and rename a third. All discussion should take place in news.groups; please post follow-ups there, *not* to news.announce.newgroups. This is *not* a call for votes. Assuming the discussion goes smoothly, a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by an independent third party 21 to 30 days from the date of this posting. This RFD is cross-posted to: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.gardening, sci.bio, sci.bio.ecology, bionet.plants, iopi@life.anu.edu.au, class-l@ccvm.sunysb.edu, mollusca@ucmp1.berkeley.edu, paleonet@nhm.ac.uk, plant-taxonomy@mailbase.ac.uk, taxacom@cmsa.berkeley.edu, vrtpaleo@vm.usc.edu CHARTER for sci.bio.systematics For discussion of the art and science of systematics and taxonomy, and issues, both practical and theoretical, having to do with hierarchical information systems, biological nomenclature, cladistics, phylogenetics, species concepts, comparative analysis and integration of morphological, anatomical, molecular, and other data, and the documentation and study of large-scale and long-term patterns of biological diversity. CHARTER for sci.bio.botany For discussion of the scientific study of plants, both vascular and nonvascular, and other taxa traditionally studied together with plants. It is anticipated that, at some future time, this newsgroup will be reorganized to provide subsidiary newsgroups focused on particular higher taxa (classes or orders, e.g., angiosperms, gymnosperms, etc.) or other groups of special interest to a large number of readers. CHARTER for sci.bio.misc One of the oldest, most widely read, and most lively newsgroups in the sci.* hierarchy, sci.bio.misc (formerly sci.bio) welcomes discussion of all topics having to do with biology. Especially welcome are topics of interest to the general public, and sub-fields of biology not covered by other Usenet newsgroups. RATIONALE The TAXACOM mailing list, for discussion of taxonomy and systematics, has nearly 1000 subscribers and it has been necessary for some time now to refrain from posting too much, to keep subscribers' mailboxes from overflowing. Over the past year, reorganization discussions in rec.gardens have included talk of a newsgroup for botany, and recent threads in bionet.plants have contained similar comments. It is hoped that, by creating these two newsgroups, some of the traffic in these forums will be more finely and more usefully categorized. Numerous TAXACOM subscribers also read Usenet newsgroups, and the presence of Usenet newsgroups relevant to their research interests should help to unite the very large and diverse botany and systematics communities already distributed among numerous other newsgroups and mailing lists. Confusion between sci.bio (a newsgroup) and sci.bio.* (a hierarchy) may be reduced by renaming sci.bio to sci.bio.misc. This is standard practice in Usenet. Please direct any comments on this proposal to news.groups. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Una Smith una.smith@yale.edu Department of Biology, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-8104
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