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Nice to see some more comments on this topic. To say that conodonts probably occupied a similar niche as the fishes is something of an oversimplification. In the first place, there was no single "fish niche" during the Devonian, any more than there is today (see below). Secondly, although I have no problem with the vertebrate affinities of conodonts, they were in virtually every ecologically important respect (size, shape, head morphology, environmental preference etc.) quite different from the Old Red Sandstone fishes I work with. So while the conodont comparison is interesting, I'm not sure that it tells us that much about what the fishes were up to. Some more details about the Devonian vertebrate record: The Devonian has yielded a lot of vertebrate remains. Carroll's list is nowhere near comperhensive, and leaves out several important groups (placoderms, acanthodians, chondrichthyans, osteostracans, heterostracans) altogether. The most thoroughly studied areas, such as Scotland and the Baltic States, have produced fish assemblages which can probably be compared with the dinosaur faunas of western North America in terms of diversity and stratigraphic resolution. Still nothing to compare with the marine microfossil record of course, but pretty good as vertebrates go. Several patterns emerge from this record. In the first place there is a strong contrast between an open marine vertebrate record dominated by early sharks and ray-finned fishes (typically represented only by teeth; look out for them in your conodont residues!) and a "continental" record dominated by placoderms, acanthodians, osteostracans, heterostracans, lungfishes, osteolepiforms and porolepiforms. Some of the "continental" faunas come from what seem to be fresh-water deposits, but others are definitely marginal marine; they seem to be dominated by the same taxa irrespective of the precise environmental setting (this however needs further work). Within the "continental" record, there is very dramatic change during the course of the Devonian. At the beginning of the period, jawless vertebrates (heterostracans and osteostracans) dominate the faunas together with placoderms and acanthodians. By the end of the Devonian the heterostracans and osteostracans have disappeared altogether, and the placoderms and acanthodians are in decline, whereas the osteichthyans (osteolepiforms, porolepiforms, lungfishes, coelacanths, ray-finned fishes) which were very rare indeed in the Lower Devonian, have become abundant and diverse. The tetrapods also arise from among the osteichthyans before the end of the Devonian. From the end of the Devonian to the present day osteichthyans have dominated the continental fish faunas of the world. Interestingly, the spread of osteichthyans during the Devonian is NOT coupled to the origin and early radiation of the group. It is clear from phylogenetic analyses, and the character complements of the earliest known osteichthyans, that the initial radiation (separation of the ray-fins and lobe-fins, evolution of the principal lobe-fin groups) took place before the beginning of the Devonian. What we are seeing must be a biogeographical effect. So far almost all the information has come from Laurussia, which has severely restricted the understanding of Devonian vertebrate biogeography, but recent work in south China and Australia has revealed very distinctive local faunas. "Palaeozoic vertebrate biostratigraphy and biogeography" (ed. J.A. Long: Belhaven Press, 1993) gives a good snapshot of this developing field. This is the key part: I am interested specifically in the Upper Devonian (Frasnian + Famennian) "continental" vertebrate record. The time interval here is only about 14 million years, and the taxic diversity is rather greater than John assumes; many of the genera are polyspecific, and in a few cases (notably Bothriolepis; see Young G.C. 1984, Proc. Linn. Soc. New South Wales 107, 443-473) they have quite well resolved internal phylogenies. On the face of it, this record seems to show no abrupt change at the Fra-Fam boundary, but there is a major and apparently abrupt faunal transformation at the Dev-Carb boundary. Two questions thus pose themselves: 1) Is there really no sign of an "event" at the Fra-Fam boundary? 2) Is the apparent end-Devonian extinction really abrupt? Presumably the appropriate null hypothesis in each case is that no abrupt "event" has occurred. On this basis I would guess (and I mean guess) that the null hypothesis would be unfalsified in the first case, and probably also in the second. There certainly seems to be something interesting going on at the end of the Devonian, but problems with sample sizes and stratigraphic correlations are likely to scupper a proper analysis of that one as yet. I hope this rather long missive gives a clearer picture of the problems surrounding Devonian vertebrate history. There is a good deal of work going on in this area (this week's "Nature" has the latest on Devonian tetrapods), so both the stratigraphic and phylogenetic/taxonomic resolution should improve in the long run. The available evidence apparently fails to show a Fra-Fam boundary extinction event in the "continental" fish faunas. The putative Dev-Carb boundary extinction is probably beyound the reach of rigorous analysis for the present, but should be a target for future research. Per Erik Ahlberg Senior Research Fellow Department of Palaeontology The Natural History Museum Cromwell Road, London SW7 5BD, UK E-MAIL ADDRESS: pea@nhm.ac.uk
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