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Paul Jeffery's comment illustrates my point nicely. It is incredibly frustrating for those who are interested in the stratigraphic answer to a particular question (or the car part for a particular make and model) to have to wade through nomenclatural minutiae. With all respect I really feel that statements like the one below... >Likewise non-palaeontologists cannot grizzle if they present us >with little mounds of rock-chips from a borehole in the middle of some god- >forsaken tract and ask us to read the entrails for them. ...badly miss the point. The simple fact is that they do "grizzle." I think they have every right to grizzle. And I believe it is evident that they are currently expressing their grizzly state of mind by outsourceing their paleontology to laid off consultants and students at bargain basement prices. Meanwhile university and government research grant administrators are seriously beginning to wonder whether non-environmental earth sciences are worth the trouble it takes to maintain them in their ivory tower havens. Our science isn't hurting us. Our image is and to a large extent that image is conveyed by how well we communicate with others. Jere's earlier point about keeping complaints about the code and Linnean nomenclature separate is correct, but, then again, the code is based on Linnean nomenclature to such an extent that much of the former makes little sense unless the latter is accepted. Regardless, paleontology's problems are not entirely the fault of nomenclature. But our nomenclature oftentimes does seem to hinder rather than promote our ability to communicate. Certainly this is the case with the non-paleo. professionals in the oil AND environmental industries with whom we must communicate because they "buy" our product. As was pointed out in several previous PaleoNet postings, however, nomenclature is also the source of confusion and needless controversy within our own specialty areas. True, other sciences have these problems as well. Nevertheless there isn't much argument among physicists about what an electron is, or among chemists about the definition of NaCl, or even among biologists about the characteristics of a coatimundi. Paleontology differs from these disciplines (including most of biology) in that our fundamental units (= species) are irreducibly historical entities that are not the same through time. The basic problem, as I see it, is that we seem conceptually locked into a classification/nomenclatural system that was originally developed without this fundamental attribute in mind. It is a poor workman that blames his tools. But, by the same token, progress is often made through the development of new tools and that cannot take place until it is admitted that the contents of our present toolbox are inadequate. With the power we now have to manipulate data structures (as was pointed out by Una Smith) I just can't help but feel that the information development tools necessary to finally bring our nomenclatural problems under control already exist. All that is required is for us (= the paleo. profession) to develop the required expertise along with the collective will to use them. Jere's point about continuity in a down-sized mode is well-taken. But, I don't think we have to be either happy or satisfied with the current trends just as I don't think that we have to be either happy or satisfied with the current nomenclature. It seems far too easy to just throw up one's hands and say, "This is the best we can do!" Jere's right in that paleontologists do seem to get obsessed over philosophical issues. [Note: though I don't think paleontologists spend any more time complaining about the state of their science than others.] However, in this case I believe there is ample reason to rethink our ideas about nomenclature and classification, just as we are rethinking our ideas about paleontology's role within science as a whole. Certainly we have nothing to lose by engaging in discussions of this sort and (potentially at least) there is much to be gained. However, since this looks like a potentially long-lived discussion, and since there may be PaleoNet subscribers who would like the option as to whether or not they continue participating or listening in, I propose that we move this debate over to DataBaseNet. Norm MacLeod ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Norman MacLeod Senior Research Fellow N.MacLeod@nhm.ac.uk (Internet) N.MacLeod@uk.ac.nhm (Janet) Address: Dept. of Palaeontology, The Natural History Museum, Cromwell Road, London, SW7 5BD Office Phone: 071-938-9006 Dept. FAX: 071-938-9277 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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